Are you serious?

‘I have more love than Paul.’ (the apostle Paul)

‘I have more character than Paul.’

‘I tower above God.’

Image result for john mcEnroe tennis are you serious?

Yes, this unholy trinity of quotes are from people having  conversations regarding a God who does not exist; a man who was a liar, and the scriptures which are fraudulent. Ouch.

Oh the unfettered arrogance and confederacy of minds apart from  God. All three references are from the same dregs of this thing called unbelief.

There is no need to source these, as many others will also claim them, but I truly wonder if it is possible for such folks to see their embarrassing words in another light: one of petulance, insolence, and foolish pride, which even the most hardened of fools would be hesitant to say such things.

Leaving God out of the mix for a moment, what kind of person could utter such things, and be serious…. to say with a straight face: ‘I tower above God.’ I have only this to add in the words of the animated John McEnroe:

You cannot be serious!

 

(out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaketh)

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73 Responses to Are you serious?

  1. john zande says:

    Well, if penning a coherent, verifiable story is a measure of one’s abilities, then most humans do indeed tower of your god. That’s just a simple fact. Sorry.

    But tell me this, Colorstorm… According to the story you believe in, the Pentateuch, your Middle eastern god can actually write words.

    Suddenly the fingers of a human hand appeared and wrote on the plaster of the wall, near the lampstand in the royal palace. The king watched the hand as it wrote.
    — Daniel 5:5

    If, as you believe, you god can write words, why didn’t it write the bible?

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    • ColorStorm says:

      Two things:

      I’ve seen this question of yours addressed elsewhere, and secondly,

      Why would you care what I think, ahem, I’ve seen your comments to your brethren about my (alleged) inability to render a reason.

      Why would you discourse with a person who has zero mental acumen…

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      • john zande says:

        Yes, i posed this question to Insanitybytes, but the comment was never cleared from your Moderation.

        Now Colorstorm, this is not a trick question. In Daniel we have clear and definitive proof that your Middle Eastern god can write words. He writes on a wall, in words.

        You believe the Pentateuch, don’t you?

        Therefore, you believe your god can write physical words.

        So, given all the confusion the bible has caused, why do you think your god didn’t simply write the bible himself?

        That’s a valid question, and I hope you can provide a equally valid and coherent answer.

        Why didn’t your god simply write the bible?

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        • ColorStorm says:

          I don’t know what you are talking about. That comment was posted March 13, perhaps you forgot where it is.

          But its there. Anyway, you did not answer my question. Please read carefully, and answer honestly.

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        • john zande says:

          I’m happily chatting to you now.

          Now, please don’t evade the question.

          You believe your Middle Eastern god can physically write words. It says so in Daniel. It’s there in black and white. Your god writes words.

          So, given all the confusion the bible has caused, given the ocean of different interpretations and mixed messages, why do you think your god didn’t simply write the bible himself?

          It’s an honest question. I hope you can give an honest answer… to the best of your abilities, of course.

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        • ColorStorm says:

          The trouble jz is our words are etched in history. You still didn’t answer my question as to WHY you are interested………..but I’ll answer briefly for others sake:

          The same reason God (not your ‘a god’) will not bow down to your foolish request for an altar challenge.

          (and just for kicks; the ‘bible’ has caused no confusion. IT is blameless, as is God.

          (EDIT: sorry posted early- God DID write with His hand, you underestimate His power through inspiration to BREATHE His word)

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        • john zande says:

          the bible has caused no confusion

          Wow, that’s quite a statement, Colorstorm! How do you explain then 42,000 competing Christian sects, who each have different opinions and interpretations of the bible?

          Given 42,000 different sects of Christianity (nine within Judaism) with varying interpretations I think its quite clear that there exists massive amounts of confusion, not least of all enormous differences on what even the Trinity means, or doesn’t.

          So, the “breath” obviously doesn’t work, 42,000 competing opinions proves that… and that leaves us with the question:

          Given you believe your god can physically write words, why then didn’t he simply write the bible and get the message straight?

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        • ColorStorm says:

          Very simple john, and thank you for allowing me to prove your point:

          ‘God is not the author of confusion…………’

          As I said, HE is blameless. And the 42,000? Seems that’s a whole lotta groups trying to get it right.

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        • john zande says:

          ‘God is not the author of confusion…………’

          This is essentially true, given he didn’t write a single word of the bible, despite being able to. He is however entirely to blame, though, for all the confusion, and death, and anxiety, and pain, and suffering, and bloodshed brought about by all the confusion resulting directly from letting “men” write his word.

          But we still haven’t approached an explanation for why your Middle Eastern god didn’t just write the bible himself (as he could, according to Daniel) and save all the confusion, which, being omniscient, surely he could foresee.

          Bit a quandary, isn’t it?

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        • ColorStorm says:

          Hey John, some time ago you had mentioned that Brazilian men had the largest ego’s ever.

          In light of your previous comments, which are once and again confirmed even here today, do pray tell, is there any body on earth that has a larger ego than you?

          And may I repeat: God is blameless.
          Your perpetual charges of God’s ‘shortcomings’ are truly tiresome btw.

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        • john zande says:

          I’m Australian, Colorstorm.

          But from what are you trying to say I have a large ego? I’m merely pointing out that Daniel says your Middle Eastern god can physically write words, and I’m asking you why you think your god didn’t then personally write the bible to ensure the message was correct… this is especially pertinent considering the obscene amounts of confusion and suffering the bible has wrought because it is so tremendously contradictory.

          Now, you still haven’t addressed the question. Are you going to? Just let me know either way, because if you have no intention to actually answer what is essentially a fairly straightforward question to then I’ll just leave it alone.

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        • ColorStorm says:

          John, your question is not new. If you spent 5 minutes on my site, you would see it answered a multitude of times.
          The same God who led the hand to write: ‘In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth,’ led another hand: ‘And we beheld His glory, full of grace and truth.’
          It’s all the same hand.

          Are you expecting a believer’s answer to change? Btw, insanitybytes has an excellent comment on this.

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        • john zande says:

          You see, even this simple question has placed you into a frightfully awkward position which you have to defend. That really shouldn’t be the way, should it? There should be nothing to “defend.”

          So which category of the 63,779 contradictions in the bible would you like to focus on?

          EDITORS NOTE: FRIGHTFULLY AWKWARD POSITION? Please. God is God, you are not. Perhaps you should be frightened at His holiness.

          John left a laundry list of ‘alleged contradictions,’ including a link.’ As was stated numerous times, no free pr, and it is pointless to defend the charges, and answer endless and ‘trick’ questions to a person who believes none of scripture. No thank you. If Mr Zande does not believe ‘In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth,’ then ANY answer will be unacceptable. This is not a playground for the promotion of atheism.

          ‘Who was Joseph’s father?’ So goes the mindless and insulting questions. If a person does not bow to the authority of scripture for THIS answer, imagine the futility of answering ANY concern. Again, no thank you. But the contradictions? All petty and laughable when examined in the light of scripture and the sovereignty of God.

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        • archaeopteryx1 says:

          you still haven’t addressed the question. Are you going to?” – Are you kidding? This guy’s got more wiggle than a two-dollar stripper —

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      • archaeopteryx1 says:

        Why would you discourse with a person who has zero mental acumen…” – So prove him wrong, CS – dazzle him with your god-given brilliance! This is your chance to shine! To show the world what your god gave you, which you’ve very successfully kept secret up to now —

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        • ColorStorm says:

          I’m not here to prove anybody wrong. The header at this site reads: ‘…..the truth of scripture;’ just passing it along.

          But your concern has been masterfully met already: you should read ib’s answer.

          Towering above God? If you would dis-mount from that ego horse, you may ‘see’ your answer.

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        • archaeopteryx1 says:

          dis-mount from that ego horse” – I’ll dismount from mine when your god dismounts from his – the one trait the two of you share, is a constant, twisted need for praise.

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  2. Wally Fry says:

    Hey how about because He wanted to and he’s God

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    • john zande says:

      Hi Wally,

      don’t you mean, “He didn’t want to…”?

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    • Wally Fry says:

      What grammar lesson now? Point is God doesn’t do things our way does it His way

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      • john zande says:

        And that way is to deliberately sow confusion, when confusion could be avoided?

        How odd.

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        • Wally Fry says:

          Hey John. That’s the problem. You want God to meet your requirements. Check it out. ….He doesn’t have to. You have to meet His. Guess what? You can’t. Jesus can and He did….for you. Quit kicking against the pricks. How’s that pulse these days?

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        • ColorStorm says:

          Jz Wally wont mind if I add to your objections.

          Your most important misconception: YOU and I were never under law. The Chinese, Hungarian, etc, and EVERY nation on earth, were never under law. The book of Romans makes this clear, as does the Old Testament.

          Israel was NOT to be reckoned among the nations. Perhaps you may remember the apostle’s reluctance to go to the house of Cornelius, which proves this point.

          Relevance? When you speak of ‘stoning,’ the discussion is moot. And this large error in mis-understanding of scripture, as you could imagine, is connected to many of your other wrong interpretations as well.

          Age of the earth? Not relevant to this post.

          (Btw, if you want answers about Mr. North, perhaps you should talk to him)

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        • john zande says:

          Hi Colorstorm

          Relevance? When you speak of ‘stoning,’ the discussion is moot. And this large error in mis-understanding of scripture, as you could imagine, is connected to many of your other wrong interpretations as well.

          Perhaps you didn’t understand my comment fully.

          I’m not saying children should be stoned to death in American public squares, rather that is the interpretation if the bible held and promoted by American Christian Reconstructionists.

          We were talking about mass confusion resulting from the contradictory bible, correct?

          I gave you an example of this confusion.

          Now, I’m almost certain neither you nor Wally believe children should be stoned to death in American public squares, but as I have demonstrated, other Christians do. They base their belief on the words written in the bible. In your opinion, they have misinterpreted those words, right?

          Therefore, confusion exists.

          So, given such confusion, and such dangerous/violent confusion at that, the question is: why didn’t your Middle Eastern god simply foresee all this confusion and wildly divergent interpretations and just write the bible himself, in his own hand, as you believe he can.

          It’s there in Daniel, isn’t it? It’s also in Exodus:

          The Lord said to Moses, “Chisel out two stone tablets like the first ones, and I will write on them the words that were on the first tablets, which you broke.”
          — Exodus 34:1

          You see, your Middle Eastern god can write words. It says so in your own book.

          Now, is the bible important to your god? You believe it is. Why then did your particular Middle Eastern god willingly (purposefully?) allow the creation of such a confusing document that no two Christian’s can even agree upon, when an alternative (his own hand) was clearly available?

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        • ColorStorm says:

          To re-iterate the theme of the post:

          ‘You cannot be serious….’ There are answers on this thread to your concern already.

          This may help you: God is not impressed in the strength of horses, but in the weakness of men who rely on the strength of God.

          And meekness is strength. His word is strong. And I suppose if God can hold all things together by the word of His power, then He is pretty strong….He is worthy of respect.

          The very thought of man ‘towering’ above God is…………..well, it doesn’t speak too well of the character of such a person.

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        • john zande says:

          To reiterate the theme of the post: if penning a coherent, verifiable story is a measure of one’s abilities, then most humans do indeed tower over your god.

          We have established beyond a shadow of a doubt that the bible is the source of massive confusion because of its contradictions and contradictory messages which have spawned 42,000 varying interpretations of the words written within Christianity alone.

          You yourself do not (I hope) believe that Children should be stoned to death in American public squares, but Christian Reconstructionists do. They derive this belief from the words written in the bible.

          Misinterpretation, misunderstanding, confusion… All because of the bible.

          Humans, on the other hand, are quite capable of penning a non-contradictory document that can be clearly understood. Is there any blatant contradictions in the U.S. Constitution?

          So, to further the point to the post, I asked, naturally: Is the bible important to your god?

          You believe it is.

          Why then did your particular Middle Eastern god willingly (purposefully?) allow the creation of such a confusing and contradictory document that no two Christian’s can even agree upon, when an alternative (his own hand) was clearly available?

          Your bible says your Middle Eastern god can write, he does so at least twice, in words that can be read, so why not also pen the bible… if it was “important”?

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        • ColorStorm says:

          Per your innuendoes john, (to your friend, ahem) don’t waste your time with another comment on this thread.
          But good gravy, Are you serious? can’t you see the answers by others here?

          Perhaps you should read:

          https://thenakedtruth2.wordpress.com/2015/03/03/many-voices-in-the-air/

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        • john zande says:

          Are you banning me?

          Doesn’t it bother you to live in so much fear and uncertainty, Colorstorm? What do you see when you look in the mirror, but a frightened man who cannot even handle polite questions… whose beliefs are obviously so shallow that they cannot stand on their own without deliberate and malicious censorship.

          Your weakness is on display, and I feel sorry for you. I feel sorry for you because you do have to sleep with yourself at night, and it must be terribly uncomfortable knowing how you have behaved.

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        • ColorStorm says:

          But I do not ‘tower above God.’

          Malicious censorship? Is EVERY one of your mile long/unrelated comments complete with atheistic links welcome? ah no.

          Polite questions? I uncovered that idea earlier. Yet, you fail to answer WHY you would care what I think about a matter knowing what you have said about my mental acumen in a host of other places. It is you friend who has come up woefully short.

          But what you call weakness, others may call prudence. You leave a long trail John.

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        • john zande says:

          Oh, and I do hope you’re not going to “edit” my comment, this time, Colorstorm. If you can’t handle what is politely written, then turn your blog “private,” as opposed to “public.”

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        • ColorStorm says:

          You are not in a very good position to dictate policy. As to ‘editing,’ your endless points and links of unbelief do not have a home here, that is true.

          This is not a dump site for every charge against God and his word.You may not care what is posted on your site, I do.

          I encourage any reader to visit your site to see the depraved remarks that are not only posted, but agreed upon by they with nothing better to do than mock scripture, God, Christ, Moses, Abraham,
          Paul, and believers.

          Perhaps if you do not approve of this format, you could take your business else where.

          As to ‘politeness,’ yea ok, the devil has far better manners than you, and is quite insidious.

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        • john zande says:

          Are you going to free my comment that is waiting for your “moderation”, Colorstorm?

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        • ColorStorm says:

          Are you going to actually address why you tower above God? Your comments are irrelevant to this post, and your ‘unreasonable’ attempts to pit the bible with the book of Mormon, and the Quran at the link you sent is rejected. Clever, but rejected.

          Nice try though.

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        • john zande says:

          Are you going to actually address why you tower above God?

          Perhaps you should read my very first comment again… It addresses this. It says in the first sentence:

          Well, if penning a coherent, verifiable story is a measure of one’s abilities, then most humans do indeed tower of your god. That’s just a simple fact. Sorry.

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        • ColorStorm says:

          Correct, so your following posts are a soapbox just as I have said. Everything you said after that is nothing new, meaningful, or useful 😉
          It’s an old tale of recycled thought.

          If people want your information, they can visit your place, and enjoy the commentary if they can stomach the added perversions.

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        • ColorStorm says:

          Ah, but arch, those ‘perversions’ have YOUR name written all over them also. You have incriminated yourself and need no help from believers.

          As to this ‘killing,’ it is equally perverse for any man to think he is not a sinner; and by so doing, you have admitted ‘you tower over God,’ and have no need for the Lamb of God.

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        • archaeopteryx1 says:

          and have no need for the Lamb of God” – Oh, I don’t know – a little mint jelly, maybe a baked potato and a garden salad —

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        • ColorStorm says:

          Some of us place the noose around our necks and try to choke the truth from our minds, but it still remains in the heart.

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        • archaeopteryx1 says:

          The heart is a pump – nothing remains in the heart except for a blood clot, and that’s usually fatal.

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        • ColorStorm says:

          Meanwhile, modern medicine has climbed on board with Credo’s of health addressing that which was known thousands of years ago, that man is a tripartite being, and that true healing must address all three aspects of a person.

          Hear the word of God:

          I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.’

          As is continually reported to you and all unbelievers, God’s word is ALWAYS light years ahead.

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        • archaeopteryx1 says:

          Meanwhile, modern medicine has climbed on board with Credo’s of health addressing that which was know thousands of years ago, that man is a tripartite being, and that true healing must address all three aspects of a person.” – Evidence, please —

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        • Wally Fry says:

          Wow, John. You followed the statement about this being your only point with something like 10,000 words. Many points. If verbage equals proof…you win God loses. Ahhh..but it doesn’t, so no cigar.

          I’ve asked before; how’s that pulse doing? You are only a heartbeat, or lack of a heartbeat from getting all of your questions about God answered.

          Why, you do not even know what will happen tomorrow. What is your life? You are a mist that appears for a little while and then vanishes.

          That’s what God says about our life.

          By the way, here is a more than sufficient answer to all of your concerns about the things that don’t make sense to you. God told Isaiah

          For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways,” declares the LORD.

          There you go. See? It’s easy. God said we would not understand Him. Heck, if I could understand Him, worshiping Him would be ludicrous; might as well worship myself. Oh, wait…you already DO worship yourself…my bad.

          One last note. You make a lot of references to God as “it.” You make sure and address HIm that way when you meet face to face some day. Beat…beat…beat..beat ___________________

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        • john zande says:

          Hi Wally

          Are you trying to threaten me? That’s rather odd, bullying behaviour, don’t you think?

          So, you say “god said he wouldn’t be understood.”

          Right, but of course, your particular Middle Eastern god did tell Moses this:

          The Lord said to Moses, “Chisel out two stone tablets like the first ones, and I will write on them the words that were on the first tablets, which you broke.”
          — Exodus 34:1

          So it’s clear Isaiah was grossly mistaken, your Middle Eastern god can write in words people understand…. and, of course, you believe Jesus was god, don’t you… and you believe people could understand Jesus, don’t you?

          So, sorry, but that particular excuse just doesn’t cut it. I’m sure, though, you can think of another excuse, if you put your mind to it.

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        • Wally Fry says:

          John don’t be absurd I am not threatening you. That is just a tactic on your that. You are a grown man you can handle this. You as usual completely ignore any idea other than you own. Of course God can write but again He does not have to to make you happy.

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        • john zande says:

          Well, you see Wally, I’m not at all concerned with your particular Middle Eastern god making me happy (I know it doesn’t exist, which make your threats quite amusing)… But for you, however, you must deal with the myriad of difficult contradictions that exist in your belief. The wild variations in interpretation, the pain and suffering and death that have been spawned by the fabulously contradictory book/books that is your “bible” negate any notion you might forward that your god is caring and concerned. Clearly, given the mess that is the bible your god couldn’t care less… and this is emphasised by the rather awkward admission that your particular Middle Eastern god can actually write words that can be understood by men. It says so in your book, a book you “believe” to be true.

          Forgetting the fact that simply making itself visible and talking would be the best option, the question you have to wrestle with is: “Why.” Why didn’t your god show enough concern for you, Wally, to personally write its message out in a way that would cause no confusion and leave no room for fabulously contradictory interpretations that cause you nothing but pain and anxiety and doubt. Why did your particular Middle Eastern god choose to permit such a tremendously contradictory document to written in its name? Does you god approve of the Christian Reconstructionists who want to stone children to death in public squares?

          Was it on purpose?

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        • ColorStorm says:

          John, (btw here is an example of the word being a savor of life, as well as death. jz will probably not like this, but Wally probably will)

          (Borrowed from ‘higher education’)

          Certain folks demand answers from scripture, Sola scriptura! they shout, while at the same time deny the authority from scripture which gives the answers their only merit. Look at the supreme lack of logic being engaged, where the precursor to the question, guarantees ANY answer as completely unacceptable.

          There is no correct answer to the atheist under his own terms.’

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        • john zande says:

          That’s very interesting, Colorstorm. Doubly so because SOM (a Christian apologist whom you know) just wrote on this Sola Scripture subject:

          Atheists are correct when they zero in on some of the gaping holes presented by modern religion.

          For example, the “solas” or fundamental doctrines of Protestantism are a veritable garden of logical fallacies.

          Let’s take one biggy, sola scriptura, as an example. From Wiki:

          “Sola scriptura (Latin ablative, “by Scripture alone”) is the Protestant Christian doctrine that the Bible is the supreme authority in all matters of doctrine and practice.”1
          Unfortunately, the doctrine that “the Bible is the supreme authority in all matters of doctrine and practice,” is not found anywhere in the Bible.

          Further, who made up the “solas” anyway?

          Here from Wiki:

          “By the middle of the 20th Century, it became common to see the original list of three increased to create five solas.”2

          If any Tom, Dick or Harry, in any century, can grant himself his own authority to redefine the Bible (Luther cut out seven books from the original Vulgate Bible) and the whole of Christianity, why can’t I?

          And so we see why Protestantism is the factionalized, incoherent, mess still in progress that we have today.

          (I can provide the link if you like)

          Now, what were we saying about massive confusion in the bible? 😉

          EDITORS NOTE: This poster pasted a comment from another believers blog. Below is an exchange on another site on a post about ‘Hate,’ regarding this comment above. I posted an observation, also seen below. Note the intention: the unbelievers ‘job’ is to sow discord, and plant seeds of doubt, and revel in derision.

          Their folly will be manifest to all.

          john zande says:
          March 20, 2015 at 14:30

          Did you see I set SOM against Colorstorm?
          It’s a glorious thing!

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          john zande says:
          March 20, 2015 at 16:01

          Unfortunately, they didn’t come to blows personally, but I pasted SOM’s riotous assessment of Protestantism, calling it (and therefore Colorstorm) “an incoherent mess.”

          Poor Colorstorm, he was shocked to have another Christian lambasting him in such a way. Of course, he deflected it by saying man was at fault, not god.

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          ColorStorm says:
          March 20, 2015 at 17:30

          ‘Unfortunately they didn’t come to blows.’
          Of course not, some people recognize the intended snares laid by the devious of heart, and turn aside. Your attempt failed miserably.

          And quote exactly will ya, I said ‘there is enough blame to go round.’

          As to this post and hate: these comments here are a good indicator of what hatred looks like, for truth is hated at all costs. All here have signed the receipt by ‘towering’ over God. Nice work.

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        • ColorStorm says:

          You are missing the point. You believe none of it, but want answers from all of it.

          Don’t want to hijack Wally, just thought it interesting and relevant to borrow from another post, for the answers never change.

          (Yes, that is awesome there is a similar convo at som.)

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        • john zande says:

          Um, no… Not missing any point. The point is the bible is a massive source of confusion. Did you not read what SOM says about you Protestants?

          And so we see why Protestantism is the factionalized, incoherent, mess still in progress that we have today.

          “An incoherent mess”

          That, Colorstorm, is proof of how contradictory the bible is… which proves that most humans do indeed “tower over your god” because most humans could write a non-contradictory document.

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        • ColorStorm says:

          Jz

          As to my friend Som assessment of this ‘incoherent mess,’ I’m sure he would agree there is plenty of blame to go around, but God is blameless.

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        • john zande says:

          Don’t you mean “Culpable” for allowing such an utter mess of contradictions, mixed-messages, and historical blunders to be published in its name? 😉

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        • ColorStorm says:

          Au contraire, if you would only see WHAT the earth would look like without people looking to providence…

          Wait, we did see it:

          And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.

          Ahem, enter the great flood. God’s word answers every concern of man. He is God, we are not.

          And the connection today? The heart of man is the same, possibly worse. Watched the news lately?

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        • john zande says:

          Death Cult Christianity.

          Did you read my article with this title? perhaps you should.

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        • ColorStorm says:

          Death cult?

          I prefer ‘LIFE membership.’

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        • john zande says:

          It’s quite startling, isn’t it, when you see it laid like that… Quite the Death Cult, wouldn’t you say?

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        • ColorStorm says:

          Yes, ‘LIFE membership’ to the body of Christ, being innately and intimately connected to the HEAD is more than startling.

          The true death cult is unbelief and atheism which asks a million questions and offers no true answers.

          I’ll take the Creator and His word. You may continue to worship your self.

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        • archaeopteryx1 says:

          Wally, you tried to pull that same Pascal’s Wager stuff on me, and it didn’t work then either – neither I nor John reached our conclusions whimsically, and can freely change them because you go “beat, beat, beat” —

          God told Isaiah
          ‘For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways,’ declares the LORD.

          Someone WROTE that a “God” told Isaiah that, that doesn’t make it true, just another man’s word that has no more value than mine or John’s.

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        • archaeopteryx1 says:

          Don’t know what happened to my “t,” but I meant, “can’t freely change them” —

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        • Wally Fry says:

          No you reached them rebelliously. Your behavior is far from a whim Arch

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        • archaeopteryx1 says:

          Right, Wally – I was rebelling against Odin.

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  3. archaeopteryx1 says:

    I will admit that it’s impossible to ‘tower above’ a non-existent entity.

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  4. So in Daniel, the writing on the wall. The King is so terrified by the hand that his knees knock together and he goes pale. The queen fears for his very life, concerned he will die of fright. He sends for astrologers and diviners, anybody who can tell him what the words mean. So Daniel comes and deciphers the message, which basically says “you have set yourself up against the Lord of heaven…you did not honor the God who holds in his hand your life ..you have been weighed on the scales and found wanting…”

    Not unlike those of today who also try to say in word and deed, ‘I tower above God.’

    So why did God not write the bible on the wall in His own hand, too? Mercy and compassion for us, because such encounters take their toll on people. Even catching a glimpse of the back of God’s hand or the bottom of His robe is traumatic and rocks your whole world. Because God speaks a language so far above us it is hard for human ears to understand and cipher. In His patience and His mercy He allows the bible to be written by men, in the language of men, in what is familiar and easily understood by all, showing common experiences, human ones we can better relate too, metaphors, parables, history.

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    • ColorStorm says:

      This is waaaaaaaay good ib. I am thankful that you spent so much time and thought on this, then posted at my place. 😉 😉 😉

      The other day I said something about ‘every mouth stopped before God,’ and this is the cat’s meow.

      (To anybody else, think real hard when you say: ‘I tower above God.’ Where do you supposes THAT idea came from…..)

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  5. archaeopteryx1 says:

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    blockquote>”3. Less Americans Pray
    Only 17 percent of Americans say they never pray compared to the almost 35 percent who say they never attend a worship service and the 23 percent who affiliate as nonreligious.”

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    Times, they are a-changing —

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  6. archaeopteryx1 says:

    it appears I know what I am doing.” – To whom? It has never appeared to me that you know what you’re doing, or even the difference between reality and fiction.

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  7. Planting Potatoes says:

    of course, you cannot leave out the infamous words of John Lennon – “we are bigger than God” 🙂 May have been taken out of context at the time – but it sure didn’t do them any good did it? 🙂

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