The rock of offense.

What strange days we live in, that folks are so easily offended. Hmmm. This short accounting is important, not because I was party to the convo, but because faith and God’s word is continually under assault, and the sting to the conscience by the biting truth of God’s word is rejected, and substituted with an accusation of character defects.  Try to follow the downward spiral,  and judge for yourself if there was cause to be ‘offended.’

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There is a post running (seems its gone) regarding Eden by a fellow, a professed former believer.  (Why a person would flee from Christ is another story.)

Without being overly wordy, the gist of my commenting was in answer to the mocking of Eden, you know THAT garden, and was clear:

To speak well of scripture;  to suggest people be careful with sharp objects (the sword of the spirit, the word of God); and to  state without apology that the truth of God is found in any version of scripture.

After noticing some weak arguments and agreement challenging the accounting of ‘Eden’ as revealed in scripture by a few on the site, I observed:

 ‘Both of you should be a little more careful with sharp objects,’  

To which I was immediately told:

‘And you shouldn’t intellectually run with scissors.’ -siriusbiziness.  I took no offense and added, having rock, paper, and scissors in mind:

‘Ah but sirius, the ‘Rock of ages’ stands against all onslaught, and is neither dimmed nor tarnished.

Even a little pebble in the right hands brought down the insolent Goliath of Gath. It is we who bring the perpetual insults and lame excuses.

God is perfect and His word is sure.’  -CS

A perfectly understandable defense of scripture to which was questioned:

Siriusbiziness said:  ‘Which version of your deity’s alleged text are you talking about, CS? The King James Version? The Ancient Hebrew text? The oral tradition before that? The Latin Vulgate? The New International Version? The New King James Version? The English translation of the Vulgate? Aramaic versions? Other Greek versions? Spanish translations? Korean translations?

I am in the middle of writing some notes on the very brief examination of the history of the Bible, and I can assure you that even among the faithful, there is no consensus on what specifically are the sure words of their deity.’

The following REPLY to the above comment was deemed offensive or inappropriate and was strangely deleted, probably for rejecting the bait to argue endless bible translation issues, and presenting common sense instead:

‘Ah, but it does not matter now does it, as to the version, as the truth is not believed in any of them.’

”Sin is a human construct, blah blah blah.’

‘Death is not the result of sin, blah blah blah.’

‘Adam never lived, blah blah blah.’

‘God did not make the stars, blah blah, blah.’  -cs

This is an important point in that, whether we read: ‘In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth,’ or ‘In the beginning, when God created the universe,’ or in plain English: ‘At the first God made the heaven and the earth,’ men have the same excuses, and the issue is not in understanding the text, but in BELIEVING what is presented.

‘In the beginning…………..God.’  Only the sleight of hand would turn this into a translation incident.

Read this bizarre follow-up:

‘CS, your reply was deleted. You initiated this conversation, you made claims, and I asked you to back them up. Back them up, or have the common courtesy to leave them unsubstantiated.’

CS, your second comment was deleted once again as being non-responsive. namecalling also is not appropriate. Gaslighting is also inappropriate. Until you can demonstrate the ability follow my rules on my blog and apologize for your behavior, your comments are not welcome here.’  -siriusbiziness

And my observation was the bane of this thread? The forthtelling that unbelievers mock Eden, sin, and its result: death? This was worthy to be charged with ‘name calling, gaslighting……………?   Oh the hypocrisy of unbelief.  Apologize?  Really?

The ‘version doctrine’ is a smokescreen, and I pointed out the lack of logic in pursuing endless roads involving translations, when the simple truth that ‘God created the heaven and the earth,’ as written in ALL of them, is dismissed.

This truth was apparently vinegar on a wound as the logic is bulletproof. No, this comment must not stand, as there is no defense!   And mock the commenter with false charges.Image result for in the beginning God

Apologies are useless unless they are sincere, and James says ‘in many things we offend all.’ Scripture has that effect, so I am sorry if a person is offended, but not sorry for the truth that offends.

There is a divine directive to contend for the faith, but many people mistakenly think it is being contentious to simply defend scripture. Not so. 

(It appears the original post and all comments have been removed; perhaps a little understanding surfaced and a person was castigated for no reason….No apologies necessary.)

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28 Responses to The rock of offense.

  1. atimetoshare says:

    Romans 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.

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  2. oh truly strange days in which we find ourselves living— these strange days of the overt political correctness and if it isn’t spelled out in white or black ( I can say that right?) then it just doesn’t count . . .or maybe it does count depending on your side—the side of the world or the side of God.
    But you’d have to believe in that whole God business, right?
    I saw a wonderful sign outside of a little country church the other day as I drove down to the beach—-“Be not conformed to this world” Romans 12:2
    A rather pointed statement, command, opinion, recommendation. . .
    Upon a little bit of research, one may note that that verse goes on to say “but rather, be transformed. . .”
    So don’t just turn you back, you mind, your thoughts, but rather turn your life, your existence, your allegiance—
    a choice—either… or. . .

    If any one can lay claim to being a victim of name calling, insults and bullying— it is you CS—as I have sadly read comments to you that are full of ugliness, cursing and just downright meanness—-maybe I don’t get the whole fussing and fighting here—you state your beliefs, you back them by the words of your faith—-and yet you are harangued, belittled, and bashed.
    When we are told by the masses of world opinion that we are to respect everyone’s choice, everyone’s view, everyone’s opinion, everyone’s right to live, to do, to say, to be–where in all of that did it say, everyone but the Christian. . . .

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    • ColorStorm says:

      In light of your observations jewels, it has been said when we are subjected to that place of lowness; be it through slander, mockery, etc; just remember, ‘that the Highest of all has gone lower still.’

      But there is a need to ‘speak the word,’ and thankfully God has equipped us, as there is no issue or topic that cannot be filtered through scripture.

      Truly the light of God shines in darkness, and His truth is magnificent.

      Btw, love that: ‘but Rather………’ 😉

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    • Arch you know I wouldn’t be rude and ignore you—I suppose I offer my support to CS because I also claim that same faith.
      And I stopped needing physical, tangible proof a very long time ago. . .that’s not to say there aren’t times I’ve yearned for the very tangible. . .that I get angry at what seems to be “nothingness” or emptiness when I am at a lowest low needing “real” arms to reach around me, comforting me—-but the proof you speak of has been more intrinsic, reaching into my deepest core. There was a sudden peace to the raging storm. . .deep in my being. I can’t ask you or anyone else to understand that. To know where I’ve been and to what I’ve experienced in my life, knowing that I was caught just in time before falling in the blackness of the abyss of misery of self. . .not that my story is one of sensationalism–I’ve just been a average person in life. . .
      I can’t back up my belief and faith with documentation or historical record that would sway you or anyone else for that matter one way or the other because you would work to find holes in my proof. . .countering my ancient historian with your own—For my belief and faith is in that which has not been seen—-it’s the transformation of my heart. . .that was proof enough for me. . .and I understand that you and others my think “oh poor stupid delusional one, chasing after fairy tales and pipe dreams” and that’s ok, because I know within myself of the deep settling of a restless soul—and that might be why I don’t get this whole fighting and the arguing back and forth that you guys do—I can’t come up with enough words to offer you or others of God’s realness or of the hope I’ve found in the Resurrection—I’m no saint nor do I boast to be now perfect—I’m flawed and continue making mistakes—yet I know that my heart rests in God’s hands—and for that I am thankful.

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    • ColorStorm says:

      Hey archx1-

      Not many care to offer a compliment and an insult in one short reply. While you are correct in recognizing the grace in julies’s responses, you are somewhat out to lunch when you say that the host of THIS site, ‘flings scripture.’ Yea, you have said that about twenty times.

      Indeed that is quite insulting, albeit not to me but rest assured, only they who ‘deceitfully handle the word of God’ may be guilty of such a charge. If there is deceit, please point it out.

      Contending for the faith is hardly ‘flinging.’ Perhaps your perception of tossing is simply due to a convicted conscience. That would be however a good thing.

      (btw, the post about the ‘wedge’ is pretty relevant)

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  3. mike and brandy says:

    I think it was the blah blah blah. Think so?

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    • ColorStorm says:

      No mike, that would be the Excuse………

      I’m thinking it was this:

      ‘This truth was apparently vinegar on a wound as the logic is bulletproof. No, this comment must not stand, as there is no defense! And mock the commenter with false charges.’

      The point was clearly made that the endless repetition of unbelief is irrelevant to translations. Hence the ‘blahs.’

      Heard it a million times.

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  4. ColorStorm says:

    As I said, some are offended at just about anything.

    You failed to see the attention was drawn to the prolixity of endless excuses………..

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  5. john zande says:

    The Supreme Creator of this Universe exists.

    I hope one day you will find Him, CS.

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    • ColorStorm says:

      Here ya go john:

      God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands;

      Neither is worshipped with men’s hands, as though he needed any thing, seeing he giveth to all life, and breath, and all things;

      And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;

      That they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him, though he be not far from every one of us:

      For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring.

      And the times of this ignorance God has winked at…………….

      For by Him all things consist.

      -the word of God

      (btw, any other deity in your mind, is simply one made in your image; yea, like that could possibly end well)

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  6. Did you ever see the movie, Gaslighting, Colorstorm? One of my absolute favorites. The term “gaslighting” has been hijacked by the PC crowd and is now mis-used and misapplied. In the movie however, a girl marries a diabolical con artist who plans to drive her insane and steal her fortune. He does this by making her doubt her own perceptions of reality and flickering the gaslights, hence the name. Once she’s downright nutty from being labeled crazy all the time, she attacks him, ties him to a chair, and holds a knife to his throat. Then she reminds him that she is now crazy and as such, has an alibi, not guilty by reason of insanity. Ah, yes, insanitybytes 😉

    Gaslighting is a term now used to describe those who attempt to steal all that is good and golden about someone’s perception of reality through the use of mental and psychological trickery and manipulation. It’s also a term frequently used as a complete projection by those who engage in precisely that.

    God is good however and His word is true, so take heart.

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    • ColorStorm says:

      Ha, tkx for the Siskel and Ebert moment insanitybytes22. . Nope never heard of your film.

      Interesting take though how you detail it, and it makes sense. Appreciate your time helping out a neighbor.

      Speaking of good, there is this thing called a ‘good fight.’ Truly one of purity and worth, for God is involved. Indeed the word is good.

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  7. ColorStorm says:

    hey archx1

    You seek ‘answers’ from a book, then deny the book which answers give them merit; THEN you accuse people of ‘slinging….’ while giving you the answers you supposedly seek.

    Outside of God’s truth, my response is irrelevant. Having a tad of discernment however, perhaps someone else would care to answer these easy concerns.

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