Lavender or violet?

Why do people sit in judgment of God? Many reasons, but the cream of the crop is to justify hearts void of bowing to ultimate authority. This is proven easily by mans rejection of absolutes.

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Instead of finding fault with lawbreakers, mankind cites the law-giver as somehow culpable for the treachery of man. Not too smart.

Beginning from a comment I gave on another post regarding the reliability and truthfulness of scripture, violetwisp was inspired to give her opinion on my alleged shortsightedness on the beauty of the monarch of books.

She dedicated a post highlighting opposing viewpoints using a rather dim view of God as a springboard, and offers corrections and gives examples why my observations are weak, beginning with complete disagreement of what I said here to another blogger:

‘Maybe for starters…….. you may care to admit, that there is no other book on earth such as the word of God. Even if you hated every word, did not believe one word of it, you could not honestly deny its past, merit, influence, laws, grace, wisdom, history, geography, hope, promises, and confident assertions. Even the devil would chastise you for such denials.’ (Colorstorm)

https://violetwisp.wordpress.com/2015/08/31/we-must-be-reading-different-books/

Do read her appeal of such a narrow point of view of the book of books, and the reasons why these conclusions are reached; note her interpretation of scripture which is sadly agreed upon by many as she concludes:

‘Influence:of no relevance

Laws:disgraceful and repugnant

Wisdom: commonplace

History:myth and fantasy sometimes loosely based on true events

Geography:so what?

Hope, promises and confident assertions:or threats, fear-mongering and general nastiness’

Hmmm. I say again, hmmm.  May I politely steer the ship back on course.

No relevance to the influence of the origin of man, the distinction between male and female, law, the beginning and the genius design of marriage, consequences for unsavory deeds, no relevance of a mans thoughts toward authority?

No relevance of the halls in state capitals such as in Harrisburg Pennsylvania showing Moses as lawgiver, and the scriptures as a guide? No relevance of the Ten Commandments etched in stone monuments across the land?

No relevance of the first American president George Washington leading by example as he looked to Providence at Valley Forge? No relevance of the bible being the greatest book ever?

No relevance of the founding fathers citing men as being endowed by their Creator……..?

No relevance of kings, senators, dukes, scribes, physicians, attorneys, scientists, painters, carpenters, nurses, aides, princes, paupers, farmers, all being influenced by scripture and a God above?  No relevance of the biblical command to bless Israel?

But time and paper would fail to document the influence of the irrelevance of the scriptures……….

Disgraceful laws? Really? Which is more revolting: being told not to drive 65mph in a 15 mph school zone,  telling a man not to steal his neighbors lawnmower, or telling men and women there will be consequences for adultery, homosexuality, or bearing false witness?

613 laws, not merely ten commandments, given to one nation, as there were civil, moral, dietary, and ceremonial laws, all with a purpose, and a righteous man (or woman) need hardly be offended at the command NOT to lay with a beast.  Why such a reminder? Or is it simply that God is well aware of the mischievous acts of men…..

God’s laws are perfect, as they expose the bent of the human heart, and no right-minded person would find fault with ‘thou shalt not steal,’ or ‘honor thy father and thy mother.’

If a law is thought to be ‘repugnant,’ it is only because God is holding a mirror to the heart of men. The gracious scrutiny of heaven toward our conscience is a very good thing, as laws are no threat to law abiders, but imagine the leash of restraint let loose without laws in societies.  Look about you, and tell me why the prisons are full of model boy scouts.

The wisdom of scripture is commonplace? Uh no, the wisdom of scripture is not the wisdom of Carl Sagan or the self described Sotomayer. I dare say we do not know what wisdom is if we think it is commonplace.  The proverbs of Solomon are a gift of God, and there is no comparison.

Cut the baby in half, and apples of gold in pictures of silver as it were.

The naming of the animals? What committee designated a heifer instead of a lion? Adam apparently knew the difference, and the family of Noah had no problem identifying the animals that Adam named. Which of your friends named the dove? The Japanese also have no problem agreeing with the Dutch that the large eared fella is an elephant, as they bow to the wisdom of the ages.

The Lord was mute before Pilate, but nope, no wisdom here though.

Then there is always the wisdom found in the epistles, proof of God’s light where there was once darkness. Saul then Paul should quiet many mouths.  And by the way, there is no shortage of wisdom in blogsville, as proven in the posts and comments by many good people who promote and defend the grace of God, as well as offer insight regarding all issues of life; and humor is wisely sanctified.

History as myth and fantasy but sometimes true? Please. It takes a man with a rather large eraser to say Solomon’s temple was not built as described in scripture; or that Darius was not king; or that Hadassah did not find favor with Xerxes; or that Daniel was not God’s man for the time, and that his three friends were not tossed in the furnace; or that in the fifteenth year of the reign of Tiberius Caesar, Pontius Pilate being governor of Judaea, and Herod being tetrarch of Galilee, and his brother Philip tetrarch of Ituraea and of the region of Trachonitis, and Lysanias the tetrarch of Abilene…………it would take that same eraser, oh wait, it is already wore out.

And the geography of scripture is irrelevant? Yeah ok. So the Tigris and Euphrates rivers are not important, yet they are conveniently mentioned in Genesis chapter 2……….long before man…..and again in the final book of scripture, Revelation, but other than that, noooooo, no importance. Jericho, Jerusalem, Kidron, Cana of Galilee, Nazareth, Egypt, Bethlehem, Moab, time would fail to document the ‘so what’ of geographical significance, for faith is based on evidence, and scripture abounds with proof.

The geography of scripture sets the table for everything on earth, but yep, simply irrelevant…

The promises of God fall under the category of nastiness or threats? Once more, hmmm.

God’s promise to never destroy the world again by flood is a pretty good promise. His rainbow as his very oath is a confirming promise. His guarantee to keep Israel is promised by His keeping of the moon. (The moon is, and Israel is).

‘I will never leave thee nor forsake thee……….’ is I must say, a pretty good promise given as a seal of God’s approval. He cannot lie, as He is true.

‘I will rise again the third day………….’ once more, the rock of promise, and an iron clad confident assertion, held dear by countless people who have lived by faith, and died having hope that will be rewarded. God is the God of the living, as the God of Jacob is the God of Abraham, is the God of Moses, is the God of Adam, and the God of Peter, James, John, Paul, Lydia, Priscilla, and is the true God of all creation.

‘I saw you under the fig tree………………’ A confident assertion. ‘Go call your husband.’ ‘I have no husband.’ Yep, He knew, just another confident assertion. ‘Before the cock-crow three times………….you will deny me.’  Uh oh.

‘There will be wars and rumors and wars……………’ Meh, like these are not on the nightly news, written thousands of years ago, regarding such an ‘enlightened people,’  but other than a few more confident assertions, no big deal huh…

But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law….  Hear that? No law. But yeah, just more nastiness, commonplace, repugnant, and irrelevant truth from scripture. Okaaaaay.

And if we think the fruit of the spirit is commonplace, I suggest we know nothing of good fruit when we see it.  And take note of the final sentence in the comment above:

Even the devil would chastise you for such denials.

Yep. The scriptures hold an edge over him, and he is quite knowledgeable of the contents. ‘Hath God said’ is the wedge he uses to ply his craft of deceit and deception, mixing truth and error, with the slippery focus and sleight of hand, with heavy emphasis on error. He is rightly called an angel of light.

Thankfully, the wisdom, hope, and confident assertions of scripture tell the end, and we know God has yet to lose anything; He is worthy and his word sure. But tkx to ms.wisp for an opportunity to add more color, and to stay off the eroding attempts of unbelief.

If you have the time, do visit vwisp site; the ensuing comments over there are an opportunity for a choice to be made regarding that which presents itself as light. You decide. Observe the spirit of the commentary by they who profess such enlightenment as godlessness while pouring forth profane words not fit to utter to a 10-year-old kid,  and words that would be considered vile in normal societal circles.

And oh by the way, the law was given to Israel alone by a sovereign God that sin might be magnified, and His purposes unfolded. Apparently the Creator knows the heart of man quite well, for today He extends grace to you.

ps- A person unaided by commentary or by the opinions of others, having read the word of God alone, fully and honestly, will arrive at the inescapable conclusion that God is good, man, eh, not so much, and that God is sovereign and full of grace.

He will see the law of God as a perfect schoolmaster, the wisdom of scripture as above all, the influence of scripture as undeniably relevant, history and geography being unimpeachable, and the blessed hope being an anchor of the soul, the promises of God certain, and the confident assertions faithful as the sun rising in the east.

He (or she) will find that Christ is the express image of God who alone upheld the law of God, and endured the wrath of sin’s penalty…..

yet….God extends an invitation to all, and a seat at His table of delight, where any hobo can sit as a royal,  and dine among friends ………… Some thought it thundered……….no it was not thunder………..some thought it was violet………..no, it was lavender, fields of it, heard and seen clearly by eyes and ears of faith.

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46 Responses to Lavender or violet?

  1. violetwisp says:

    Oh Colorstorm, your world view is breathtakingly odd. The naming of animals takes the biscuit …

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    • ColorStorm says:

      Yeah, it must have been quite a procession of tame animals.

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    • Citizen Tom says:

      Actually, violet, you and ColorStorm are reading different books. Whereas Colorstorm is reading the Bible with the viewpoint of the people to whom it was written, you are reading it as if it was written to you. That is because you don’t read it with any care.

      What you call commonplace wisdom, for example, was not commonplace when Leviticus 19:18 was written. Note that because they had been foreigners in the land of the Egyptians, the Old Testament counseled Hebrews to treat foreigners respectfully.

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      • archaeopteryx1 says:

        Note that because they had been foreigners in the land of the Egyptians

        “The archaeological investigation of Moses and the Exodus has been discarded as a fruitless pursuit.”
        — William G. Dever —
        What Did the Biblical Writers Know and When Did They Know It?

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        • ColorStorm says:

          When will your antagonism toward the God of heaven and earth cease……….

          You keep believing God has no purpose with Israel, and that the law was not given by Moses, and that grace and truth did not come by Jesus Christ.

          One day you will tire and see the light of day.

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        • archaeopteryx1 says:

          You’re the one wearing the blinders.

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        • ColorStorm says:

          Well then I suppose you heard it thunder……….no it was words………..I suppose then you see violet. No it was lavender, fields of it, as the post clearly points out.

          But notice Cts’s response to your friend. Perfect.

          It’s called reading the scriptures in CONTEXT. You may want to consider this as to why you only see fog, and not the light of day.

          ‘The entrance of thy word giveth light.’

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        • archaeopteryx1 says:

          Well then I suppose you heard it thunder……….no it was words………..” – No, it could only have been thunder – some humans tend to see agency where there is none.

          But notice Cts’s response to your friend. Perfect.” – But he used faulty information in the process, citing a Hebrew presence in Egypt, which invalidated the whole thing.

          You guys should get out more —

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        • ColorStorm says:

          Your stubbornness of verifiable history is becoming increasingly boring.

          Perhaps another audience may be more suitable for the spinning 45’s that are old and outdated…

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        • Citizen Tom says:

          To some extent, you are misrepresenting William G. Dever (http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/ancient/archeology-hebrew-bible.html). However, that’s understandable. He is the sort of “reasonable” person that public funded “journalists” like to interview. Have you ever considered the ethics of forcing people to fund propaganda that rejects what they believe?

          Dever starts out in the interview sounding very modest. For example, he says:

          The fact is that archeology can never prove any of the theological suppositions of the Bible. Archeologists can often tell you what happened and when and where and how and even why. No archeologists can tell anyone what it means, and most of us don’t try.

          But that’s just an introduction to his insinuation that the Bible wasn’t meant to be taken literally.

          Given that sheepherders and slaves had very little to start with, trying to find any evidence they ever existed would be dreadfully difficult after several thousand years. Even Dever admits the fact we cannot find any archaeological evidence for the existence of the patriarchs should not surprise anyone. It is, after all, a boneheaded expectation.

          What is more curious is what Dever says near the end of the interview. He says that the Bible does not describe the Hebrew takeover of Canaan the way the Bible describes it.

          What have archeologists learned from these settlements about the early Israelites? Are there signs that the Israelites came in conquest, taking over the land from Canaanites?

          The settlements were founded not on the ruins of destroyed Canaanite towns but rather on bedrock or on virgin soil. There was no evidence of armed conflict in most of these sites. Archeologists also have discovered that most of the large Canaanite towns that were supposedly destroyed by invading Israelites were either not destroyed at all or destroyed by “Sea People”—Philistines, or others.

          So gradually the old conquest model [based on the accounts of Joshua’s conquests in the Bible] began to lose favor amongst scholars. Many scholars now think that most of the early Israelites were originally Canaanites, displaced Canaanites, displaced from the lowlands, from the river valleys, displaced geographically and then displaced ideologically.

          So what we are dealing with is a movement of peoples but not an invasion of an armed corps from the outside. A social and economic revolution, if you will, rather than a military revolution. And it begins a slow process in which the Israelites distinguish themselves from their Canaanite ancestors, particularly in religion—with a new deity, new religious laws and customs, new ethnic markers, as we would call them today.

          In fact, the Bible does not describe a sudden, hugely destructive conquest of Canaan. God never even intended any such thing.

          Exodus 23:20-33 New American Standard Bible (NASB)
          Conquest of the Land

          20 “Behold, I am going to send an angel before you to guard you along the way and to bring you into the place which I have prepared. 21 Be on your guard before him and obey his voice; do not be rebellious toward him, for he will not pardon your transgression, since My name is in him. 22 But if you truly obey his voice and do all that I say, then I will be an enemy to your enemies and an adversary to your adversaries. 23 For My angel will go before you and bring you in to the land of the Amorites, the Hittites, the Perizzites, the Canaanites, the Hivites and the Jebusites; and I will completely destroy them. 24 You shall not worship their gods, nor serve them, nor do according to their deeds; but you shall utterly overthrow them and break their sacred pillars in pieces. 25 But you shall serve the Lord your God, and He will bless your bread and your water; and I will remove sickness from your midst. 26 There shall be no one miscarrying or barren in your land; I will fulfill the number of your days. 27 I will send My terror ahead of you, and throw into confusion all the people among whom you come, and I will make all your enemies turn their backs to you. 28 I will send hornets ahead of you so that they will drive out the Hivites, the Canaanites, and the Hittites before you. 29 I will not drive them out before you in a single year, that the land may not become desolate and the beasts of the field become too numerous for you. 30 I will drive them out before you little by little, until you become fruitful and take possession of the land. 31 I will fix your boundary from the Red Sea to the sea of the Philistines, and from the wilderness to the River Euphrates; for I will deliver the inhabitants of the land into your hand, and you will drive them out before you. 32 You shall make no covenant with them or with their gods. 33 They shall not live in your land, because they will make you sin against Me; for if you serve their gods, it will surely be a snare to you.”

          Did the Hebrews obey God? No. After the death of Joshua, the Hebrews slowly became more “reasonable.” Instead driving out the Canaanites as God commanded them to do, they either enslaved them or they simply gave up trying to drive them out. Some even chose to intermarry with the Canaanites. Only a few cities did they destroy.

          If you are going to quote an archaeologist, could you at least find one who is familiar with the Bible? If I know the Bible better than your “expert,” he is no expert.

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      • ColorStorm says:

        So simple. So clear CT; tkx for bringing it once again.

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  2. Peter says:

    Adam and Eve must of been quick talkers naming 60,000 animals in one day.

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    • ColorStorm says:

      @pete

      Some people ramble on and use more words than that in a few hours…and say nothing.

      But you may want to consider HOW that naming process occurred. It’s rather fascinating.

      And consider the fact that man named them……….kind of odd really if man is but a glorified ape. No thank you.

      Scripture!

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  3. Ah, violets and lavender, my favorite! I enjoy all those royal colors and the flowers that go with them.

    As to the other, it is so often fear and pride that keeps us separate from God. Pride because we don’t want to be thought fools, because we fear aligning ourselves with something “bad.” More fear of Authority, fear of being powerless, fear of being misled. Most of this stems from having negative perceptions of authority, from being frightened of our own vulnerability. Those can be especially challenging issues for women.

    Also, those fears are all unfounded and irrational. They are based in emotionalism and old strongholds and a big tangle of weeds. God is love, God is mercy, God is steadfast and so worthy of our trust.

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    • ColorStorm says:

      Glad you like the purplish plants……..as some things are laid out in lavender………but there is an ancillary meaning to the Violet, such as one with a wisp 😉

      The post was longish, but an answer to common poor perceptions of the One who has ALL authority.

      …….but ‘challenging issues for women?’ Ha, that’s your area of expertise insanitybytes22.

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  4. Reblogged this on Talmidimblogging and commented:

    Excellent post. No laws would mean…badges, we don’t need no stinking badges.

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  5. rautakyy says:

    “…or telling men and women there will be consequences for adultery, homosexuality, or…”

    Consequenses? I thought, in homosexuals relationships it was not very likely, that there will be any actual consequenses, than in heterosexual ones? 😉

    Of history and myth. While Pontius Pilate is an actual historical character, confirmed by outside sources, same can not be said about this Jesus character in the same strory. On the other hand, the Jesus incident was not propably seen as important by the contemporaries, as to get into any historical sources, so I think it is very likely that there was this man on whom this particular resurrection story is based on. Infact, the man seems all the more likelier, if we take to account, that the alledgedly most important “miracle” he performed – the so called resurrection – while nobody was even looking. The story seems plausible enough, to have confused some of the superstitious people of the time, even though the resurrection is mere inference from the alledged observation, that the Jesus character most likely just survived the resurrection. But that is exactly how myths are born.

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    • ColorStorm says:

      @rautakyy

      Hi and tkx for visit-

      It is a law of nature that all actions have consequences; it just so happens that indiscretions are magnified.

      I know a guy/girl who has chosen the route of transgender, and he/she is a pariah, brought upon by his/her choice.

      The girls are uncomfortable in his/her presence, and the guys want no parts of what is naturally uncomfortable. The consequences are rather obvious, as he spends his time………….alone.

      As to your myth thoughts. The law, the prophets, and the psalms……….all speak with one agreeing voice of the person, work, and worth of the Lord Jesus Christ.

      His life, death, and influence can hardly be dreamed up by any group of people.

      He asked: ‘How can David’s son be David’s Lord,’ a stellar reference that has no place in mythology, for the thunderous implications were known by they who heard this question.

      The true myth is thinking the scriptures are not relevant.

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  6. archaeopteryx1 says:

    Where do I begin, CS? This post, more than any others of yours, is full of sound and fury, signifying nothing except the frustration you must have felt upon visiting VioletWisp’s blog, and not being able to censor or delete the comments there, responding to your nonsense. It stings not to be in full control, doesn’t it CS?

    How many patronizing pats on the head did you get while you were there? I noticed your bosom buddy Wally didn’t even have the courage to show up and cover your back!

    Tell me something, CS, from the infinite fount that is your wisdom – how did the tree sloth make it from Australia to Mesopotamia in time to catch the Ark?

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    • ColorStorm says:

      Fury huh? Please. How about a careful, deliberate, and measured response.

      But the sloth? Maybe he hitched a ride on the back of a kangaroo. Maybe he was just down the road dining with a penguin. Maybe the great isle was not broken………these objections are a dime a dozen, and dismissed easily by the narrative of scripture.

      And ms wisp post? Uh, God’s word loses nothing, ever. Didja notice the vitriol by your friends that proved this…………

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  8. Peter says:

    Ah the Wisdom of Solomon!

    Interestingly Proverbs 22:17-24:22 draws on an Egyptian wisdom text (the Instruction of Amenemope) which pre-dates Solomon.

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    • ColorStorm says:

      Isn’t there another book that you would rather find fault with….

      or is it simply the fact that the scriptures are worthy of your disdain….thus confirming its truth and your opposition to the truth….

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      • Peter says:

        I know you will find it hard to accept, but what I really want to do is to ascertain the truth. The issue I have been grasping with is whether or not the Bible is a divine or human book. This is of utmost importance for me personally because of the consequences if I reach the wrong conclusion.

        That is my motivation.

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        • ColorStorm says:

          Well peter, it appears you are straddling the fence, but I cannot convince you.

          The answers you seek are found within the same book you doubt. Question for you, is what is being fed: your doubt or your affection ….

          And the true God is more than willing to reveal Himself………

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        • theancients says:

          Peter,
          what other book are you weighing the Bible against?

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  9. Tricia says:

    “If a law is thought to be ‘repugnant,’ it is only because God is holding a mirror to the heart of men.” I’ve found this to be very true as it is a big reason why Christianity is so repellent to outsiders. It’s the accountability factor and it tripped up me and my headstrong ways for years. I’d say I was against a “judgmental” and angry God while in reality it was me being judgmental and angry about something I knew very little about. I’ll visit the other site later when I have time but I have a pretty good idea of what the tone is probably like already.

    I’ll say it again because it’s true, Great post! 🙂

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    • ColorStorm says:

      tkx t; I’m with ya, but if you take a walk to the other place……….don’t forget eye protection, ear muffs, a shield 😉 and oh, boots too.

      Lots and lots of muck.

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      • Tricia says:

        I took a gander last night and forgot my boots! I just couldn’t bring myself to jump in that rabbit hole. You, IB and someone else (Serenity?) were doing a fine job defending truth while maintaining decency. My goodness it is interesting to compare and contrast comments. A Book should be written on that….

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        • ColorStorm says:

          Well T, at least we know that Book is always correct….

          And yep, the contrast is stunning. I’m guessing some in bleachers are rethinking the so called enlightened mind of godlessness.

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        • archaeopteryx1 says:

          Well T, at least we know that Book is always correct….

          Right – everyone knows that Yeshua met Peter, Andrew, James and John at the sea of Galilee, except that John says he met them at the Jordan River, it’s only a question of which part is correct – but then that means that another part isn’t! I’m SO confused! (John Travolta as ‘Vinnie Barbarino’ —)

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        • ColorStorm says:

          They are obviously both correct.

          A lack of understanding is always our fault. The hallmarks of inspiration abound to a soft heart.

          But why a person cares to spend their life chastising scripture is beyond me.

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        • archaeopteryx1 says:

          They are obviously both correct.” – Oh what a tangled web we weave —

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        • ColorStorm says:

          If you took the time to honestly look into the reasons WHY the accounts are ahem, different, you will see your objections disappear under the weight of your own embarrassment. I will however not do your work for you. Get a fork and feed yourself, for if I give it to you, you will merely spit it out.

          But do know, there is no mistake as to the record.

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        • archaeopteryx1 says:

          I’ve dug far deeper into the making of the Bible than you will ever allow yourself to do, and uncovered far more information than you will ever know.

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        • ColorStorm says:

          That’s nice. Perhaps now you are more qualified to chastise the Creator.

          And your so called objections of so called learning ? I can use one word: foolishness.

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        • archaeopteryx1 says:

          Perhaps now you are more qualified to chastise the Creator.” – As I stated to you on Violet’s blog, there is no creator to chastise, only the foolish who believe there is.

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        • ColorStorm says:

          And perhaps somebody else may care to answer your tired excuses.

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      • archaeopteryx1 says:

        Tricia never needs that kind of protection – she never flings scripture as opposed to giving honest answers.

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  10. “I’d say I was against a “judgmental” and angry God while in reality it was me being judgmental and angry about something I knew very little about.”

    Oh, well said! Like Colorstorm says about how “God is holding a mirror to the heart of men,” I too have found that to be true in myself. A bit humbling perhaps, but any misunderstanding is always going to be within me, not Him.

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  11. theancients says:

    Only a literal fool would think Wisdom is commonplace.
    Book of Enoch tells us – Wisdom found not a place on earth where she could inhabit; her dwelling therefore is in heaven.
    Wisdom went forth to dwell among the sons of men, but she obtained not an habitation. Wisdom returned to her place, and seated herself in the midst of the angels…

    What a sad commentary on the depraved and destitute state of a human heart when such utter darkness is deemed “enlightenment”.

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