‘One can’t have a sensible discussion about morals, ethics, laws, responsibility, human rights, with people who live by the bible.’ So sez roughseas. Sneaky.
Hmm. Here we see an extreme example of mental myopia, dismissing thousands of years of ‘sensible discussions’ regarding morals, ethics, laws, and responsibility with the stroke of a pen. Man oh man, do the libraries of the world laugh at such shallowness.
Does any body have the guts to say how truly pitiful this comment is?
No sensible discussion. You going with that?
No sensible discussions? Please. When Solomon stated his ‘cut the baby in half’ to find out the true mother, was this not sensible? Was his question not one of morals and ethics? Did he not seek out who was responsible for posing as the bastard mother and thief? Did he not have wisdom above all others? Did not his fine question get to the root in one minute or less?
And while there may be today appeals, endless delays, years and years and trial after trial to ascertain the ‘real mother,’ wasting valuable time and resources, Solomon in his not so politically correct voice said: ‘cut the baby in half………..’ not because he was a monster, but because he used the wisdom of God to cut through the garbage, and get to the point.
Would to God we used such common sense in our dealings with our fellows. No, nothing to learn here about jurisprudence and the raping of the court systems. No sensible discussion to be had. Oh how we should be so jealous of such wisdom, given freely by God. Cut the baby in half!
But no, there can be no ‘sensible discussion’ about morals or laws with people who live best as possible according to the scriptures, and of course she means, that the scriptures can not hold a candle to the intellect and laws of man. Please.
Without scripture, there would be chaos in the world. Wait, there is chaos in the world, as ‘evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse.’ Another sensible discussion to be had, but of course, without absolutes, evil does not exist, and nothing is getting worse and worse….
It is understandable how one could think there could be no valuable discussion if one holds to the truth of scripture, for people who do not have a standard of right and wrong will always be at a disadvantage. Did God create man and woman? Is there not a sensible discussion to be had when I ask you to consider the words man and woMAN?
Or does it perhaps reveal senselessness by avoiding the blazing truth that woMAN was made from man? But no, no ‘sensible’ discussion here, as it is rather inconvenient to face.
Is it not part of a sensible discussion to include the truth that things made require a maker? Science 101. Carpenters need wood to make a table. Squirrels need trees. And the seed of the tree is in itself. But yep, no ‘sensible discussion’ with they who take the word of God seriously.
But to the poster, a ‘sensible discussion’ simply means God is not, was not, and never will be. Uh, yea, go ahead and declare that the carpenters table created itself, or that a whirlwind buzzed through a junkyard and out popped a Boeing 747, ready for flight. Yeah, uh huh, sure, a sensible discussion.
-A good name is more valuable than rubies. I suppose no sensible discussion can be had about wealth versus character and principle.
-A wise son maketh a glad father. No sensible discussion can be enjoyed regarding a son who makes good decisions based upon what is pure, just, and good. Nothing to be discussed regarding working with ones hands, or seeking a spouse of mettle.
-Consider the ant thou sluggard. Yep, no discussion regarding the welfare state, laziness, and a solid work ethic.
-The entrance of thy word giveth light. No discussion of worth regarding he who gave up the bottle, drugs, or abuse, to live for a cause. Or simply that an old woman enjoys her faith, never tasting liquor, being happy in her contentment of having very little, as she recognizes day from night.
Yep, no sensible discussion to be had with they who believe the scriptures. But me? I’ll also take the daylight of the word of God 24/7 which presents God as ever God, and by whom all things consist.
Keep your endless speculations and arguments from a mind stayed apart from the Creator. I’ll take the proven, verifiable, and reliable word of God which is forever settled in heaven. But time would fail and paper would be short in documenting the influence of the laws of God over the earth, and how men have used and abused laws, and how governments were formed upon good law.
Visit the State Capitol buildings in America, and see the paintings and influence of Moses and law. Laws are good if used lawfully, but yep, no sensible discussion with people who understand history and the God of history. Please.