WHO is the liar?

Do take the time to slowly consider the following. If your blood boils, allow the ink to flow freely, as certain mouths ‘must be stopped,’ and folly be exposed. Below you will find various colors, including darkness, and there is also scripture WITHOUT APOLOGY.

From my very header: ‘-blending the colorful issues of life with the unapologetic truth of scripture-‘

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Once more, the fangs come out from the mind and lips of the self-described holders of knowledge, by way of the apostles of atheism, who by their own admission, have decided who and who is not a liar. But of course this requires Olympic sized hurdles in ‘defining truth,’ and an entirely new arithmetic called ‘new math…………’Since THEY hold the fictitious key of knowledge, anything not atheistic enough is considered ‘retarded’ as it were, diseased.

Oh to be so considered ‘diseased,’ a blight on humanity, and why pray tell? Glad you asked. You see, I, along with zillions of people, have for umpteen thousands of years, believed the records of good people who merely documented a message not their own. That’s right, they were acting as a simple amanuensis, recording with exacting detail that which they were called to write. They wrote truth. They were faithful scribes. They were stewards of another’s property.

It is REQUIRED in stewards that a man be found faithful.

Some ‘chronicled’ dates, names, numbers, places, events, just like a court reporter nowadays whose job is to simply record the facts, ma’am.  Imagine their disdain if they were given eyes to see down the hallway of time, and hear the bastards of stolen intellect accuse them of lying.

How dare the self made elite dismiss good people so quickly and without regard. How dare the mentally challenged erase the life and times of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Mordecai, Ruth, Esther, Naomi, Boaz, Daniel, Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Timothy, Barnabas, Silas, Lydia, the Lord Christ Himself, and of course the one and only Saul/Paul the apostle, whose words and works not only stood against the onslaught of ‘new historians,’ wink wink, but whose credentials need no affirmation.

These are good people. The civilized world knows the scriptural accounts are true.

Talk about stupidity. Talk about brain-dead. Talk about the hatred of that which is good.

So here ya go, an excerpt from an apostle of atheism, which has many admirers:

–So, John, you willingly lie to children. That is why you should have no contact with them. You are a retardant to the human condition, a diseased human being.–

and again:

–As you know, though, no TrueChristian™ ever actually examines the veracity of their faith. They know that path is fraught with all manner of grotesque hazards, so to protect the lovely pantomime they pretend it (history/science) doesn’t exist. Exhibit A here is, of course, Colourstorm and Wally, Inansitybytes and Tricia, et al. The willfully ignorant cannot be helped. They can only be contained, like a disease.–

Oh how happy I am to be elevated in stature being mentioned in the same room as the incomparable insanitybytes, the level head of Tricia, and the rock solid testimony of Wally. Thank you for this misplaced accolade.

Notice the word disease was used twice, apparently a fav by they who cannot tolerate scripture. News flash ye simpletons of science: The word of God is not a science book. Of course it contains the truth of science as in WHO created the acorn for the oak, but for God’s sake, it is not a book on botany. God gave people brains to use, even though some leave theirs at the park bench thinking the acorn decided to form a committee to construct a tree. Hmm, what’s a tree? Word for the day: lies.

With the usual half-baked charges, the author of the insane comments dismisses every believer of all times with the absurd ‘NO Christian ever actually examines the veracity of their faith………….’ setting at naught an immediate credibility issue. Yeah, uh huh, sure, NO believer has come to faith after testing what he once thought was fraudulent.

The arrogance of godlessness knows no bounds.

Perhaps the short-sighted and mentally cripple of thought have not cared to investigate the claims of scientists who HAVE tested the claims of scripture, and have perfectly concluded that there is NO other option, than, ‘in the beginning God.’ That’s right, men who at the risk of being thought outdated or careless of thought, have ‘tested’ the claims of science and have seen their immutable laws in the lab with perfect measure; the microbiologist who sees the Creator while he is scorned by his colleagues, not because THEY do not see……..but because they WILL NOT accept the conclusion that there is a God above all, and THAT, seeing the same evidence, thus being happy in their lying to themselves.

Ah but that little word there ‘lie,’ WHO is the liar but he who says Jacob was not the son of Isaac, who was not the son of Abraham? Who is the liar who says Solomon was not the son of David, or who says in the fifteenth year of the reign of Tiberius Caesar, Pontius Pilate WAS NOT the governor of Judaea, and Herod WAS NOT tetrarch of Galilee, and his brother Philip WAS NOT tetrarch of Ituraea and of the region of Trachonitis, and Lysanias WAS NOT the tetrarch of Abilene…

And that Annas and Caiaphas WERE NOT the high priests, and that the word of God DID NOT come unto John the son of Zacharias in the wilderness, who says this was not factual, accurate, and true? Who says this is a lie? 

People have been lying to themselves for ages. Lies simply acquire a new suit of clothing, and the latest conveniences, but the body is still the same. Scripture is despised, God is mocked, Christ is said to have a devil or that he never lived; Moses is said to be a myth, while Christ spoke of Him as a historical certainty, thus pitting Him as a liar. Hmmm. I’m going with He who is the truth, and I agree with God that EVERY man is a liar if he dismisses the Creator and his effulgent word.

Yep, that would be the so-called learned rabbis who say Abraham’s Zippo lighter can’t be found so he didn’t exist. So you say Moses never lived? You then are a liar. You also say that Mordecai and Esther were tales from the crypt? You then are a liar. You say sir that Christ Jesus did not put away sin? You then are the very worst of liars, deceiving yourself with a conscience that is pretty much shot.

Eh, maybe they will hear Moses. Oops, nevermind, he too is being erased from history. Even the great halls of government give obeisance to the man of God Moses and the law of God. The tree of modern knowledge has become diseased, for it does not have the branches of history and truth. God’s fruit is good, it is ripe, so unlike the dark and putrefying stench of rotten fruit which is not fit to eat nor is worthy of compost.

Go away ye mere handful of zandes of the earth. Find another ‘life,’ for all here belongs to God. Maybe you can design your own ‘new’ elephant. Maybe the ‘lie’ of the lion being created can be improved upon.

And now, have a look see at 4 blogs. Convince yourself which one of the four is heads and shoulders above the others, in depraved comments, and an absence of light. Go ahead, put on the armor of honesty if you dare, and accept the results of your conscience. The conscience, yes, enjoy that natural sting of brutal honesty. Now ask yourself which of the blogs presents things old and new, as well as faith, hope, and love, and a breath of fresh air which is obvious.

Ask yourself which sites present the truth of history and scripture, humor that is decent, creativity from a bottomless well,  laughter without vulgarity, compared to the adulterated, reedited and erased version of history, truth, and outright blind omission of life’s facts which presents godlessness as man’s only solution. Let’s start with Saul of Tarsus and the Lord Christ from Nazareth, Bethlehem, (the house of bread) and Jerusalem (the city of the great king). Yea, you better keep your mouth shut, for let God be true, and every man a liar.

‘I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth. Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.’  

Note that NO lie is of the truth, so it’s no wonder the truth of God is derided by so called historians who ignore thousands of years of documented life. Don’t be a liar. Choose light not darkness.

https://insanitybytes2.wordpress.com/2016/04/25/recovering-marthas/

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147 Responses to WHO is the liar?

  1. new math hasn’t worked out real well in our schools—it’ll be tossed for something else that comes down the pike—the same with the caustic visitors who seem to so enjoy nipping at your heels CS–
    We, the believers of a Triune God, of a resurrected Savior know the Truth CS—a time will come, sooner than later I fear, when those who do not know the Truth will quake…
    It’s like I’ve said before–sometimes it is best to simply shake the dust from ones shoes as sometimes, one has done all one can do with the horses that refuse to drink….
    A great offering as always CS—

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    • Arkenaten says:

      I truly wish he would, Julie …. but he keeps coming back!
      It’s not as if I ever invited him

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      • Well, I am reminded of the Rule of St Benedict—a small book written by St Benedict around the year 500–it was written as a set of rules for those individuals who were leaving in monasteries at the time—-as Benedict had grown upset with the way many monastics were conducting themselves—the book is actually widely used today in large corporations as it is a practical today to any one who has dealings with others—and one of the first rules is that we are to welcome those who come to us as visitors or guests…so my thinking is you must be that gracious host 🙂

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        • archaeopteryx1 says:

          so my thinking is you must be that gracious host 🙂

          Did St Benedict, Julie, recommend that a visitor’s comments should be held in the limbo of moderation, then deleted so that no one will ever read any other point of view? Gracious!

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        • ColorStorm says:

          Uh, Benedict was under no obligation to promote the hatred of God and scripture…………

          Another point of view that leaves out the Creator? Where is my laugh button…..

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        • Hi Arch–St Benedict didn’t say worry over the other persons response to your kindness and graciousness but rather you be the gracious kind one… and as for comments… I can’t speak to what I’ve not seen nor are privy to—sounds as if relevance is the name of the game

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    • ColorStorm says:

      Offering? Love that.

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  2. Peter says:

    The decisive factor in me losing faith, the proverbial straw that broke the camel’s back, was when I realised that the history contained in the Bible was almost certainly not accurate.

    Unless we are prepared to question and test our beliefs and to follow the evidence wherever it leads then we delude ourselves if we think we are seeking truth.

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    • ColorStorm says:

      Hey pete:

      Follow the evidence? You mean ‘follow’ the voices in the air of they which are antagonistic against the God of heaven, His scripture, and the Christ of God.

      There is NO argument on this front. Be honest with yourself, you find God contemptible for His ways that you do not understand, but please do not say the ‘history of scripture’ is not accurate.

      You have ZERO credibility, and you would be better served to just say you have no further interest. You lose this argument every time.

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  3. Wally Fry says:

    Well, again I am wowed to be in such great company and thanks much for the pingback.

    @ Colorstorm “as certain mouths ‘must be stopped,’ and folly be exposed”

    @Julie”It’s like I’ve said before–sometimes it is best to simply shake the dust from ones shoes as sometimes, one has done all one can do with the horses that refuse to drink….”

    Interesting. Both of those things are true. I have pondered that paradox a lot over the course of a year or so of this blogging thing, and still wonder. I tend to lean towards the “mouths must be stopped” camp. Then, I catch myself arguing for the wrong motivations, and dust off my feet.

    I have arrived at the conclusion that arguments about doctrine and theology are stupid and useless with those who don’t believe it in the first place, but a forthright and up front response to assaults on our Lord or other believers is perfectly within reason, and even something God expects of some of us. Not all of us. Some of us are quite nice(Julie) and some are more ..um…hard around the edges

    Good words here brother.

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    • Arkenaten says:

      Actually, Wally, most of those you refer to once did believe, and a great many were far more clued-up on scripture and theology than you will ever be my ole mate. It is for this exact reason – the earnest and genuine pursuit of higher learning and spirituality that drove such people to study the bible and other relevant texts for years.
      Poring over texts , learning Hebrew and Greek etc.

      And what so often happens is that realisation dawns that the answers they seek will never be revealed because they were never meant to be.
      Solely because such texts were never meant to be taken as literal events forms of analogous tales that required the believer to suspend reason and simply accept through faith.

      As you have no real desire to explore and study so deeply, but merely hang on the periphery, then you will be perfectly safe from deconversion, Wally.

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      • Wally Fry says:

        “most of those you refer to once did believe”

        I didn’t say who I referred to. Again, you put words in peoples mouths. Down my way we call that a lie.

        Being a “decon” doesn’t mean a person has some special knowledge.

        You have NO knowledge of scripture, nor can you.

        You don’t know what I study. Again a lie

        Peace

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        • ColorStorm says:

          Hey Wally, it is hilarious to read the ‘understanding of scripture’ by they who have boasted about deconnery.

          Really it is worthy of a circus. Not only do people say Moses/Abraham/Isaac never lived………..but now God Himself is somehow erased from His own creation and His scriptures which were once ‘precious,’ are all of a sudden ‘vile.’ Please.

          Talk about conned? All one needs to do is read the comments by they who ‘once’ were children of light. Uh……..nnnno, children do not turn from light to darkness………

          But yep, important word there ‘lie.’

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        • Arkenaten says:

          I have arrived at the conclusion that arguments about doctrine and theology are stupid and useless with those who don’t believe it in the first place,

          Let me help you out there… and quote you.

          You don’t know what I study. Again a lie

          I would probably win a bet of what you don’t study. As you believe in a creationist reading of the bible then I can say with confidence that science and archaeology would likely be close to the top of any list.

          I do not lie. Why would I need to?

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        • ColorStorm says:

          Just two cents. Of course you lie. Denying this makes you a greater liar.
          There is no God? You are a liar.
          Saying Moses never lived? You are a liar.
          Saying Abraham Isaac and Jacob never lived? You are a liar.
          Saying Christ Jesus did not put away sin by the sacrifice of Himself…………Hmmmm. Yep, a grand lie. Don’t lie to yourself, it is not worth the adulation of your friends.

          I could go on, but even your believing mother must agree with me.

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        • ColorStorm says:

          EVIDENCE? EVIDENCE? You just ignored the finest evidence of all, the genealogies of Abraham, David, Nathan, Seth, need I go on? Time and lineage stamps are hard to ignore.

          There is a reason you do not keep records for dead hyenas.

          Don’t be a stubborn mule. Just admit that there is NO evidence that will be suitable; be honest.

          But again I remind you of the word ‘liar’ in the title of this post.

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        • Arkenaten says:

          Of course I will acknowledge evidence.
          Just present some that can be thoroughly evaluated.

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        • Wally Fry says:

          Read close

          I never said you need to lie. I said you do.

          Why? That is who we are. Me, you, all of us are liars at heart, especially those who deny the one true God.

          But, enough of my valuable time has been wasted on you.

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        • Arkenaten says:

          No, I do not lie. You maybe feel the need to . I do not.

          (CS SEZ: Wally has perfectly pointed out the difference between the ‘need’ to lie, versus the ‘fact’ that lying is at the root of humanity. That’s a fact, and this post is further proof. You say ‘there is no God? Sorry, but you are a liar.)

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      • ColorStorm says:

        Your excuses are lame, borrowed, stale, and useless. Can I quote myself below:

        Maybe we should call on the dignitaries of higher education for the correct answers on the existence of God and credibility of His word. Meanwhile, ‘Higher education’ encourages the accusation of ‘weakness’ in the text, while men run to us and say: ‘defend the scriptures!’

        God’s word needs no defense.

        Why do I say this?

        It IS the defense

        It is self proving. The sun above is temporary, but the word of God abides forever, as it is settled in heaven. Yet, believers are asked to defend it because theological professors find fault. Really?

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        • Arkenaten says:

          How does Yahweh’s ”word” stand up in the face of the admission from the descendants of those who wrote the words that it is all myth?

          Are you then calling the majority of Rabbis, Jewish historians and archaeologists liars?
          Well, are you?

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        • ColorStorm says:

          Present Matthew 1, as in the genealogy of Abraham to David’s greater son to your legendary friends.

          Present Luke’s genealogy to your ‘historian’ friends.

          And present the account of Acts 7, which you summarily dismiss, as further proof of Jewish stubbornness regarding the truth of history.

          And I will tell you without reservation, and in the face of blazing truth, that if they deny the records……………then they are simply lying to themselves, or they are simply misinformed.

          Take your pick. But you have a real problem with your word there ‘majority………..’ 😉 😉 😉

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        • ColorStorm says:

          Ark, you remind me of a little boy standing in the rain getting soaked, while his mother offers him a raincoat, and he boldly tells her she is delusional for thinking it’s raining.

          Your ignoring the truth of scripture does not make your wish a reality. I told you about the ‘GENEALOGIES’ for God’s sake, and you act like it is not raining.

          Verifiable. Testable by history. Factual proof that the patriarchs lived. And once more, you dismiss Acts 7 like it is irrelevant. Why don’t you go read it, instead of spouting off your automatic response of unbelief…………

          You are given a gift here, it’s up to you what you do with the truth of life.

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  4. you know us southern girls—we were born to be kind and gracious yet tough as nails 🙂

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  5. ColorStorm says:

    And yet you are not embarrassed to be in the company of they, who while agreeing with you, spue forth poison and depravity all in the guise of ‘learning’ or ‘progressive thought.’

    The comments there are plenty proof of the wasted attempts to nullify scripture. A real circus. You may want to consider what ‘kind’ of intellect gravitate toward your premise of No God/no scripture/no Moses/No Abraham/ no Christ…………..

    But yep, daylight tends to be despised by the night critters…………

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    • john zande says:

      Oh goodness, The Lord Censorship himself has actually allowed a comment!

      The hypocrite might not actually be such a hypocrite, after all.

      Let’s see, we can test this. Will you free my first comment… you know, the one that’s been sitting there for two days?

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      • ColorStorm says:

        Don’t be so petty and arrogant jz.
        You tighten the noose with your own argument.

        Your comment ‘sitting on ice’ had NOTHING to do with this post HERE. Nothing.

        You did do a fine job though of creating a diversion, which is your stock in trade, as you try to drive the narrative.

        Read your own comment again.Try to charge me with incorrect facts.

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        • john zande says:

          Oooooh yes it does! It’s the direct reference back to the spine of this post.

          Free it, or just accept you’re a useless hypocrite.

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        • ColorStorm says:

          Last time here. Try to pay attention.
          You sent a link to promote an article you wrote.

          You framed a question about ‘lying to children………….’ apart from any semblance of context or reference.

          This is WHY it is irrelevant. For God’s sake, use your God given brain. Also, I do not play ‘link pong’ as I have repeated.

          Being called a hypocrite from you is a compliment btw. And your shameless commentary at your friends house……..aw nevermind.

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        • john zande says:

          The question was precisely what sparked this post, you hypocrite. It’s why I called you a (****************************************)

          I presented Rabbi Chalom’s explicit question:

          (**********************************

          What is your answer to this, John?

          Yes, or no?

          Are you a diseased (********************************************

          CS ADDS: Point made. This is what your comment looks like WITHOUT CONTEXT. I will not help you to shamelessly promote your stuff at another site which specializes in the insulting of scripture, God, the people of God, and the Christ of God, while you completely ignore a post you are commenting on. If you do not understande this, too bad. You will not drive your narrative on this post. You have forfeited any measure of respect.

          As to your inferences about ‘diseased’ people, you may get away with it with me, but do not, do not cast darkness on people who are dear to me. The level of your vitriol toward certain people who you have named……….is pathetic to the nines. An apology should be demanded, but that will fall on deaf ears. Your dismissing of good people who believe the good book and who write with freshness from good hearts is embarrassing to anybody who recognizes light from darkness. I’m thinking especially of insanitybytes22.

          Are you a diseased human being you ask? Hmmm. For simply believing the scriptures……………How great is the darkness that would even suggest such a thought…….. Tis a pity.

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  6. ColorStorm says:

    Uh, it’s not even close that they were the same men. Geez.

    Oh that men were not careless and lazy readers, and so quick to find ‘contradictions’ in scripture.

    You may want to be slower to criticize the obvious:

    —These four were born to the giant in Gath, and fell by the hand of David, and by the hand of his servants.—

    Once more, God’s word has handed the Goliaths of unbelief an easy defeat.

    Let God be true……..and EVERY man a liar. God’s word is perfect and blameless. but, I don’t suppose an apology will be coming any time soon for such a ‘careless’ misreading…….

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    • archaeopteryx1 says:

      You may want to be slower to criticize the obvious:
      —These four were born to the giant in Gath, and fell by the hand of David, and by the hand of his servants.—

      Again, how little you know of your Bible is astounding! (*******************************************)

      CS SEZ: Are you finished with your playground antics? Or are you simply drunk with vodka? You post a reference to try to ‘discredit’ scripture, and when you were found out, you now say you were just kidding…………. then pretend to further teach that which you neither understand nor believe. You are done here for today. Please blow your pea shooter elsewhere.

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      • archaeopteryx1 says:

        I didn’t say I was ‘just kidding’ – that’s an outright lie! (****************************insults)

        (CS SEZ: Of course you were. There is no lie. You feigned yourself as one presenting a contradiction when you KNEW there was none. Your games are obvious. Scripture presented the ‘four’ in the correct context, now go away, and paste to your hearts delight in the house of your friends, in which they will also find you entirely too boring, but will never say so, as you serve their purpose.)

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  7. Arkenaten says:

    (CS SEZ: Wally has perfectly pointed out the difference between the ‘need’ to lie, versus the ‘fact’ that lying is at the root of humanity. That’s a fact, and this post is further proof. You say ‘there is no God? Sorry, but you are a liar.)

    No, I have never said their s n god. There are thousands upon thousands. I simply do not believe on gods; yours, or anyone else’s.
    So, in fact, it is you who is the liar after all.
    Quelle surprise?

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    • ColorStorm says:

      Huge mistake there. ‘gods’ are a dime a dozen and cannot lift a feather, perhaps you are not aware, it seems you are not, but there is one God.

      No God? Therefore the lie in you remains.

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      • Arkenaten says:

        Once again I acknowledge there are a great many gods. Your god, Yahweh, is simply one among many. I just do not believe in any gods.

        You have been lied to all your life regarding your religion, and you appear to be perpetrating the same lie.

        But, no, CS, I am not a liar.

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        • ColorStorm says:

          Yeah, the nature of deception is such that blind people insist they see, and that sinners say ‘who me, a sinner?’

          So yeah, the lie is an inescapable conclusion that even a turtle would hide in shame at such stupidity by humans.

          You say ‘there is no God.’ Uh, that’s a lie that a 4 year old kid would point out to you, as well as as a 75 year old mother.

          Let God be true, and every man a liar……….you will make no progress until you admit what is obvious. Darkness hates light.

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        • Arkenaten says:

          Oh, I have never said I am not a naughty boy from time to time.
          But sin is a religious concept, and religion is a fear-based man made system.I subscribe to neither.

          And once again. I have never said there is no god. There are thousands.
          Do you have a comprehension or reading problem?
          So, once again, I do not lie, but it seems you might well be a liar.

          Darkness hates light?
          Oh, dear, are we getting all melodramatic now CS. What a silly person you are.

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        • ColorStorm says:

          Here ya go no charge. Try to pay attention. Of course there are many ‘gods’. Some people worship the god of cameras; others the god of sports; others the god of money; others the god of motor oil, yet collectively, these could not lift a nickel.

          Now then, you may want to pay attention to the word God, capital ‘G,’ which demarcates Him from all others. God has no competitors. The one God who created Mars, also created Neptune, the Milky Way, birds, bees, whales, and man and woman. Hope this helps.

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        • Arkenaten says:

          Actually, the other gods I was referring to were ones such as Quetzalcoatl, Thor, Odin, Zeus, Amun,Horus, Mithras etc.

          No, there is no god with a capital ‘G’, Colorstorm.
          Your god’s name has a capital Y, as in Yahweh.

          Hope this helps?
          Remember, if you get stuck … J.F.G.I.
          Okay?
          Best.

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  8. Tricia says:

    I cannot thank you ColorStorm enough for writing this post and putting on display the absolute utter naval gazing nonsense of atheists who who think believers are simpletons who never grapple seriously and sometime agonizingly over the higher issues of God, faith and truth.

    My goodness the ignorance and haughtiness dripping from such statements could fill a swimming pool. They made me smile though and gave me a good and much needed hearty laugh this evening.

    Cheers my friend and keep up the good fight.

    PS, I concur with Wally at feeling honored to be thrown in with such a depraved lot as him, yourself and IB. May God have mercy on our souls. 😉

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    • Arkenaten says:

      You are not a simpleton,Tricia. An unfortunate product of indoctrination, maybe, but definitely not simple.

      (CS sez: As to your ‘other’ comments, take them and yourself to Iceland if you love that country so much, and you should know by now, I do not play ‘link pong.’ And yes, if you persist in saying the Most High is ‘one’ of ‘many’ ‘gods…………’ then yes, you are a liar. God has no competitors.

      For the love of God man, ask your mother who you say is Christian. She will agree with the truth of scripture, nature, and common sense. She will tell you there is one God. Put your rain coat on…..)

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      • Wally Fry says:

        “You are not a simpleton,Tricia. An unfortunate product of indoctrination, maybe, but definitely not simple.”

        Again, more lies. Or cut and paste assertions done with absolutely no basis in fact driven only by your own depraved opinion. So, you pick…you fail to understand, or you lie.

        Indoctrination? Back it up. You don’t know Tricia, and you don’t know me. Lay it out. When,where, and by whom were we indoctrinated? Some come to a saving faith in the Lord quite as adult responsible people despite your inane assertions. You claim indoctrination. Prove it. Names, dates, places.

        Or stand exposed for the liar you are.

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        • Arkenaten says:

          What lies? Are you suggesting Tricia is a simpleton ,Wally?

          I assert you are indoctrinated simply because you refuse to acknowledge the secular work done in the areas of Biblical exegeses, hermeneutics, history,science and archaeology which refutes your Creationist biblical claims.
          The Human Genome Project is a perfect example; Francis Collins and his team have proved beyond doubt that humans did not derive from a single human couple as described in the bible. And please note that, Francis Collins is a devout Christian.
          That you refuse point blank to consider, let alone accept this, is evidence of indoctrination … or simple willful ignorance.
          Only you know which, and of course you are certainly not obliged to tell me.

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        • Wally Fry says:

          “Are you suggesting Tricia is a simpleton ,Wally?”

          There you go. Intentionally misrepresenting another person’s statement. Lie.

          Back to indoctrination and quit backpedaling. That is something that happens. Sooooo…back it up. Where, when, and by whom?

          @Tricia. Of course you aren’t a simpleton.

          L..i.e.s.

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        • archaeopteryx1 says:

          I can see, Wally, (CS strikes through *****************************************insult to Wally rejected. Hey arch, this is not your friends house, where every foul comment will have a nesting place. Seriously get a grip.)

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    • ColorStorm says:

      To be so considered of the number trish who ‘need to be contained, like a disease…………’ is a rare compliment coming from the godless.

      Remember Christ was said to ‘have a devil.’ Oh the depths of darkness people travel to boast of their pretended knowledge of a world apart from the Creator.

      Word for the day: L.i.e.s.

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      • Tricia says:

        Badge of honor I would say CS. L.i.e.s. indeed.

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        • Arkenaten says:

          What exactly are the lies I am accused of Tricia? Could you please identify a single one?

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        • ColorStorm says:

          Ah you are forgetting the law of first mention, which sets the table and context for EVERYTHING that follows.

          In the beginning………..God…………..created……..the heavens………..and the earth………
          He made great whales……….
          He made the stars also…………

          It is THIS God, the one and only true God that you try to put at naught. Good luck with that. You may need help from your personal god nikon………….. 😉
          A gift for ya doug, take it under advisement.

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        • Arkenaten says:

          The Law of first mention?
          If you are referring to Genesis the you ought to know when this tale was composed, surely?

          Would you like a list of other similar tales composed over a thousand years before the Torah even saw the light of day?
          A gift for you, John.
          Suspend judgment for a day and go and do some studying. Seriously, it will not make you go blind, become corrupted or even make you a sinner.
          Or at least no worse than what you already believe you are.

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        • ColorStorm says:

          Hey ark,
          Once more you are avoiding that little word ‘honesty.’

          The word of God is icing on the cake and simply confirms what you already know. 😉

          A man hardly needs the bible to tell him God created the heavens and the earth.

          Read the post again which demolishes any gripe of yours.

          And I quote myself for your convenience:

          –How dare the self made elite dismiss good people so quickly and without regard. How dare the mentally challenged erase the life and times of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Mordecai, Ruth, Esther, Naomi, Boaz, Daniel, Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Timothy, Barnabas, Silas, Lydia, the Lord Christ Himself, and of course the one and only Saul/Paul the apostle, whose words and works not only stood against the onslaught of ‘new historians,’ wink wink, but whose credentials need no affirmation.

          These are good people. The civilized world knows the scriptural accounts are true.–

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        • Arkenaten says:

          But the bible was composed by men, CS. And surely you know when it was composed, yes?
          You do know this, I’m sure. And at the risk of repeating myself as well; the descendants of those who composed the Torah have acknowledged it is simply historical fiction.
          They have stated that their god, Yahweh, was originally a Canaanite deity.
          So why should I not give these people the benefit of the doubt?
          After all, it is their god that you worship.
          So, if we are being brutally honest here and not hiding behind theology and rhetoric then you need t acknowledge this fact before we can move on at all.

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        • ColorStorm says:

          Move on at all?
          No. You can play your reindeer games at your site.

          I agree with Wally when he says you (and all atheists) are at a blind disadvantage if you do not believe:

          …………in the beginning God.

          And take your ‘historical fiction’ crap to the hyena fest of your own site, where it is more suitable, as this den will spit out the bones of ignorance.

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        • Arkenaten says:

          Crap? This is what every qualified archaeologist and biblical scholar has stated. I am merely mentioning what other, far more qualified than I are on record as saying. And they say this based on evidence, CS.
          Why would they say it if they had not come to this conclusion through tireless study based solely on evidence.
          If you could at least of some sort of explanation as to why so many of these people would say this then if you can demonstrate it is spurious nonsense I will be more than happy to offer a public retraction.
          So, why do you believe they would claim it is historical fiction if it is not?

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        • ColorStorm says:

          Recalcitrant. This is you. For thousands of years people have known the reliability, truthfulness, and accuracy of the anvil which has wore out EVERY HAMMER. Even your plastic toy hammers.

          You just. do. not. get it. Here you are, thousands of years later, as the ‘holders of new wisdom,’ cough cough, puke puke, trying to erase the life and times of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.

          Please go away. You have zero credibility. Zero. Nula. Nil. Zilch. Zero. None.

          I’ll say it again: your heroes of unbelief who malign scripture are not worthy of the word ‘scholar.’ It’s that simple.

          WHO is the liar? Read the post again, as your gripes have all been dismissed.

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        • Wally Fry says:

          “This is what every qualified archaeologist and biblical scholar has stated”

          Every? Unless you are prepared to discuss the qualifications of every single scholar and archaeologist in the world. That assertion is merely your own opinion. But, since you know you cannot, and also know your statement is untrue.

          Again. Lie

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        • ColorStorm says:

          That’s hangin’ em Wally using their own rope of ignorance. But he will dance around this foolishness and cite you as the one without an argument.

          Darkness versus light? Hmm, let’s see, which one do we choose…………Ah yes, the light of God’s truth which is blazing for all to see.

          Worth repeating eh: let God be true and every man a liar.

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        • Wally Fry says:

          That’s an amen there

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        • Wally Fry says:

          Nah…you have proved your position. That being make broad sweeping assertions powered by the strength of Ark and then backpedal furiously and toss the onus the other way when challenged.

          l.i.e.s

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        • Arkenaten says:

          Well, we were talking about the Pentateuch, Wally, so if you feel you have succeeded in your little game of one-upmanship than I am happy for you. I t makes not one iota of difference to the fact that the god of the Old Testament (CS SEZ: see below) and everything in the Pentateuch s simply historical fiction.
          I can live with this … can you?

          LIES. indeed, my friend.
          I suspect you already know the this but are so far down the rabbit hole to retract would make your life unbearable.
          Only it really wouldn’t!

          (CS arbitrates: One-upmanship by Wally? Uh, nnno. How about pointing out the false narrative of saying ‘all scholars……….’ is a far cry different than a ‘majority’ of scholars. It would be equally foolish to say that ALL male ballet dancers are gay………..Point made/case closed. Ark embarrassed.

          If there is a game to be played, it is played by the professional atheist, who has bought the ‘lie’ that there is no God. And I will correct the above statement, that yes, while the god of the Old Testament is historical fiction……….the God of the Old Testament is not, as He has no competitors.)

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        • john zande says:

          Hi Wally

          Ark is actually perfectly correct in what he is saying, and I think you know that. But if you want some clarification here is famed Israeli archaeologist, Professor Ze’ev Herzog of Tel Aviv University in the foreword to his 1999 essay, Deconstructing the Walls of Jericho:

          “The patriarchs’ acts are legendary stories, we did not sojourn in Egypt or make an exodus, we did not conquer the land … Those who take an interest have known these facts for years”.

          Reviewing Herzog’s paper, Professor Magen Broshi, chief archaeologist at the Israel Museum, Jerusalem, stated,

          “There is no serious scholar in Israel or in the world who does not accept this position. Herzog represents a large group of Israeli scholars, and he stands squarely within the consensus. Twenty years ago even I wrote of the same matters and I was not an innovator. Archaeologists simply do not take the trouble of bringing their discoveries to public attention.”

          I think that confirms Arks position.

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        • ColorStorm says:

          Jz
          Since you are filling in for ark, Wally will not mind that which is quite apt regarding your charge of the ‘legends’ who have decided that scripture cannot be trusted.

          Perhaps these words will find good ground in respect of such stupidity:

          —But these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves.

          …These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots;

          Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars—

          I particularly appreciate the ‘foaming out their own shame,’ which Herzog has proved rather well.

          Listen up: WE DONT CARE how many spiritual bastards masquerading as scholars have denied the scriptural record.

          God’s word is good, and every man, eh, most are liars, who lie to themselves, which this post proves, and which Wally’s comments also affirm.

          Herzog will pass away, and God’s word will be just as good as it is today, and as it was in the beginning, and as it ever shall be.

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        • john zande says:

          Dismissing two Israeli professors of archaeology, world leaders in their field, merely demonstrates that you are, indeed, a diseased human being.

          The chief archaeologist at the Israel Museum, Jerusalem, Professor Magen Broshi, says it quite clearly:

          “There is no serious scholar in Israel or in the world who does not accept this position…

          Read that as many times as you need to until it sinks in.

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        • ColorStorm says:

          No john, God’s word has dismissed them, I am simply relaying the message.

          There is far more credibility in the words of Jude (and obviously true) than ‘modern scholars’ who have no use for God, scripture, or the singular truth of the only true and living God.

          A no brainer. But I will not stoop to your level and call you a diseased human being, as unlearned or misinformed as you may be.

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        • john zande says:

          OK, a serious question. I accept that you believe the origin tale is true. That’s OK, that’s your right. Can you perhaps speculate then as to why your god, Yhwh, would present no evidence whatsoever for believers to point to and trust in?

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        • ColorStorm says:

          First, there is NO need to speculate.
          Second, I have no god…….but there is one God.
          Third, you are deaf, dumb, and blind if you think there is no evidence whatsoever.

          All the books of the world are evidence. What do you want, an invitation? Oh wait, we have that too.

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        • john zande says:

          John, I am accepting that you believe. That is not what i am asking. Why, do you think, your god, Yhwh, would plant literally contradictory evidence? Why create it such that brilliant archaeologists (who are not ideologues) would find mountains of evidence that told a completely alternative story to that relayed in the bible?

          Can you think of a reason why Yhwh would do that? Why would he deliberate fool professionals? Why would he leave his believers with nothing to actually point to, defending air?

          Again, this is a serious question. You’re smart, you know the evidence isn’t on your side, so I’m genuinely curious to hear why you think Yhwh permits this situation to unfold?

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        • Wally Fry says:

          Really. So you stand by “all” archaeologists and scholars? In that case I challenge you to provide a person by person breakdown of every archaeologist and scholar in the world. Just like Ark.

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        • john zande says:

          Well, as Professor Magen Broshi, chief archaeologist at the Israel Museum, Jerusalem, says “There is no serious scholar in Israel or in the world who does not accept this position…” then I think its up to you, Wally, to show us a “serious scholar” who believes the Jewish origin tale is factually true.

          Over to you…

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        • Wally Fry says:

          Ah..so there are only two scholars in the world.

          Actually. Ark asserted that “every” reputable scholar and archaeologist agree with his position.

          So, put up or shut up.

          Positive assertion and all of that, as you like to hurl all of the time.

          Your stone head friend, as he foamed and frothed at the mouth, made one. So, since you have chimed it to help. Perhaps you can back his assertion.

          Remember, he said “every” reliable scholar.

          Since you can never back up that assertion, probably best not to embarrass yourself trying.

          So, peace out.

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        • john zande says:

          I believe Professor Broshi has a better handle on the thoughts and positions of his learned peers than you do, Wally.

          His statement stands.

          So, please prove the Israeli Professor of Archaeology wrong. Show me a “serious scholar in Israel or the world” who believes the Jewish origin tale is factually true.

          I look forward to reviewing your answer.

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        • ColorStorm says:

          Ask your friend Broshi what he thinks of Saul of Tarsus, who would put him to shame in scholarship.

          Ask him what he thinks of Reb Gamaliel, (an expert in law) who taught Paul.

          Ask him what he thinks of a man named Nicodemas, a ruler of the Jews, a Pharisee, a master of Israel, who talked matter of factly about Moses as a historical certainty.

          Ask him about the incomparable Alfred Edersheim, the Austrian Jew, whose twin works ‘Old Testament Bible history,’ and ‘the life and times of Jesus the Messiah,’ have no equal.

          And ask your latest unbelieving hero friend what he thinks about a man named Jesus, known as the Christ, from an obscure town called Nazareth, who by the way, had (has) understanding which is infinite.

          Ask him if finding Abraham’s shoe laces is ultimately important; he just may get the message of his own obstinance, and by so doing, expose yours as well.

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        • archaeopteryx1 says:

          Where was Saul’s latest archeological dig, CS, and his peer-reviewed report on that?

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        • ColorStorm says:

          Head north by the sea, then turn right at the desert. There you will find the footprints of the patriarchs………and if you look real closely, you may find an apple core or a fig.

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        • Wally Fry says:

          Well, where’s the peer reviewed reports to back up the outlandish “every” claims your friends have made?

          Funny how you guys only ask, and never answer.

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        • john zande says:

          Hi Wally

          I believe Professor Broshi, the chief archaeologist at the Israel Museum in Jerusalem, has answered you. In case you missed it, here it is again:

          “There is no serious scholar in Israel or in the world who does not accept this position. Herzog represents a large group of Israeli scholars, and he stands squarely within the consensus. Twenty years ago even I wrote of the same matters and I was not an innovator. Archaeologists simply do not take the trouble of bringing their discoveries to public attention.”

          Now, are you going to man-up and show us a serious scholar in Israel or in the world who believes the Jewish origin tale is factually true?

          If you can prove Professor Broshi wrong, then please do…

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        • ColorStorm says:

          Scripture defends itself! Yet you are defending a man who like you, sits in judgment of the God of heaven, as well as dismissing His word. Not too smart.

          Same age old gripes. Boring jz, really boring.

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        • john zande says:

          No archaeologist I’ve ever spoken to has even remotely come across as being a ideologue. These are men of hard science. They go where the evidence leads. They don’t “invent it,” John, they “unearth it,” and then read it in context of what is already known.

          Here is Herzog explaining what exactly happened in the early to mid 20th Century:

          “Slowly, cracks began to appear in the picture. Paradoxically, a situation was created in which the glut of findings began to undermine the historical credibility of the biblical descriptions instead of reinforcing them. A crisis stage was reached when the theories within the framework of the general thesis were unable to solve an increasingly large number of anomalies. The explanations became ponderous and inelegant, and the pieces did not fit together smoothly.”

          Now, I asked you a question, which I am genuinely interested to hear what your answer might be. And don’t worry, there is no right or wrong answer here. I’m not going to jump down your throat. I promise.

          I asked, why do you think Yhwh created this situation where the evidence contradicts the story? Why would he deliberately mislead honest men and women? What possible purpose does that serve?

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        • ColorStorm says:

          Your question is entirely wrong. Herzog and your friends interpret scripture through their unbelief.

          The evidence is misinterpreted because of callous hearts. God does not lead his creatures to drink poison. Men create the poison then blame God for malfeasance.

          No. God is blameless. I do not need to see Solomon’s temple to know it existed.

          The integrity of scripture is enough. And I hardly need to see the sand of Sinai to know that camels walk there.

          Evidence? Look around you, and interpret it correctly, and you will not need the failed rabbis to help you see what they do not want to see.

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        • john zande says:

          OK, so you say the evidence that has been uncovered and tested and peer-reviewed over the last 100 years is ‘misinterpreted.’ That’s fair enough. Thank you.

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        • ColorStorm says:

          A hundred years? Wow. The ‘modernists’ must be geniuses eh, to completely annul thousands of years of recorded, verifiable, and unimpeachable records and facts of history.

          But noooooooooooo, no agenda by the unbelieving, liberal, and godless handlers of scripture. Too funny.

          As I said, ‘mis-interpreted……….’ And I am being polite you know, and reserving what I would like to say.

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        • john zande says:

          Modern archaeology (as a disciplined science) only truly began about 100 years ago. In fact, the first archaeologists to enter Israel and who led the first digs in the first half of the 20th Century were all “bible in one hand, spade in the other” Christians (their self-title, not mine) like William Albright who believed with all his heart that the biblical tales needed only to be unearthed to be proved true.

          But no problem. You believe absolutely all the evidence has been misinterpreted. I guess that’s possible.

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        • ColorStorm says:

          Simply put jz, your friends are looking for love in all the wrong places.

          With respect to Mr. Albright, I need not see the nine waterpots to know there was a wedding in Cana, of Galilee.

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        • john zande says:

          Well, Albright wasn’t looking for Jesus stuff, rather he wanted to prove the stories of the Pentateuch; the Jewish origin tale.

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        • ColorStorm says:

          Perhaps he should have looked for Joseph’s coat of many colours at the thrift store.

          Oh wait, that was a tale, no coat existed, sorry bout that….

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        • Wally Fry says:

          Broshi said it…must be true.

          Really John? Are you really that obtuse that you can’t see the absurdity of your own argument?

          I could provide ten thousand names, and you would dismiss them out of hand as “not serious.” Of course, the definition of “serious” is held by….wait for it…..you and your friends.

          You don’t engage in serious thinking yourself; you only see what your own depraved heart of rejection wants to see.

          Now back to assertions. Even Broshi says…large groups…consensus.

          Your friends said…”every” that means each one…all..todos..alles….

          So, I suggest you actually back the assertion that was made instead of trying to redirect this as a failure on my part.

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        • john zande says:

          OK Wally, I’ll just take that to mean you can’t present a single “serious scholar in Israel or the world” who says the Jewish origin tale is factually true.

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        • archaeopteryx1 says:

          The civilized world knows the scriptural accounts are true

          Does ‘the civilized world” include the 85% of the Academy of Science who are atheists or agnostics?

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        • ColorStorm says:

          Absolutely it includes all of them. There is just this little thing called ‘denial,’ in which this post clearly enunciates. 😉

          The fool says ‘in his heart………… there is no God.’ Get it? Just as you know it in your heart and deny it, so do the so called elite.

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        • Tricia says:

          Actually Ark, I was referring more to JZ’s silly statement comparing believers to an incurable disease and other such nonsense.

          As far yourself and what you are being dishonest about? I wouldn’t say you’re being untruthful because I gather you believe 100% in the statements you make. What lies we tell ourselves though to justify our beliefs are really the only ones that matter in the end. That is all.

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        • ColorStorm says:

          Tkx T. for bringing it back to the epicenter of the egregiousness which provoked this post.

          Well said.

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        • Arkenaten says:

          I wholeheartedly agree, Tricia and to this end, do you not think it incumbent on us – all of us – to ensure we have the right information to base our views upon?
          Based on what we have discovered concerning a god such as Quetzalcoatl or Zeus, you and I would never, in a million years, base any world views on acceptance of the veracity of this ancient deity.
          The mere notion is preposterous, and rightly so.
          But a great many people did believe, didn’t they?
          So when the considered opinion of the majority of the scientific and archaeological community is that Moses and the surrounding stories are nothing but myth, surely we all owe it to ourselves and especially our kids that we investigate the claims to the fullest?
          After all, what are the alternatives?
          And remember we are talking about the consensus of archaeologists here.
          1.They are mistaken – meaning they have misinterpreted the evidence.
          2.They are all lying – which is preposterous as it would suggest an almost global conspiracy involving the professional archaeological community.
          or
          They are telling the truth.

          In your heart of hearts, what do you really believe?
          And if Colorstorm allows this comment to go through, then I am truly interested in your answer.

          (CS SEZ: You Wholeheartedly agree in what? That Tricia is correct when she expresses disdain for the notion that your friend, jz, and by association, you, state without reservation that believers ‘are diseased human beings who must be contained…………………?’ Shall I repeat this?

          As to your ‘right information……………’ Do show we the believer a book that presents Zeus or Quasimoto as the one and true living God, who by His word created all things, and brought into existence the seeds of life, and proved Himself through nature, scripture, and HISTORY> Yes, present the book of Zeus that is the best selling of ALL time, and the book that has been reprinted more than any other piece of writing.

          Do present the book of Zeus that presents the patriarchs and their infallible genealogies, present the book of Zeus that proves the promises of God through Israel, and present the book of Zeus that presents Christ as singularly bringing grace and truth.

          Away you go, and please keep quiet about the cut and paste garbage of anything that assails scripture. You have no case, and need I remind you that ALL men are liars, so yes, your hero friends have an agenda, and ultimately, it has to do with the Lord Jesus Christ. Read Acts 7 and the truthful account of Israel’s stubbornness. Dismiss His word, and Christ goes away. Uh, nnnno, the living God (not your dead Zeus or Quasimoto) is the ever I am, and he currently sits on the right hand of God. Zeus does not even have a chair. The mere fact that you assert Zeus with Christ in the same sentence proves your insincerity.

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        • Arkenaten says:

          @Colorstorm

          What I wholeheartedly agree with Tricia on is this ….

          What lies we tell ourselves though to justify our beliefs are really the only ones that matter in the end. That is all.

          And this is why I stated it is in everyone’s interest that all of us investigate to the utmost limits to ensure what we believe is correct.
          Otherwise we are merely accepting myths and fabrications. Another reason why we people no longer believe in Quetzalcoatl or Zeus.

          If you have any alternate evidence to refute the archaeological evidence then please, present it and we can discuss like adults. And as I have said before, if whatever you present pans out, being able to withstand full scientific and scholarly scrutiny then you have my word I will retract.
          All you have to do is present the evidence and if you are a man of honesty and integrity you will have no qualms doing so.
          And it would be a pleasant surprise if for once you stopped editing my comments.
          Thanks

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        • ColorStorm says:

          ‘Another reason why we people no longer in quasimodo or zeus………… uh hello…………..?’

          I have NEVER believed in quasimodo or zeus, once more confirming your insane ignorance.

          And oh, for the record, the singular GREATEST proof of archaeological certainty and the truth of scripture?

          J.e.r.u.s.a.l.e.m.

          You need not find Abraham’s shoe laces to verify the fact that he lived. The word of God explains it all. Open your eyes and give up your rebellion, and stop lying to yourself, and maybe apologize to Trish here for citing her as a ‘diseased person who needs to be contained…………….’

          Now go away and have a very nice day. (as to ‘editing’ simply stop presenting poison at my site. Thank you.)

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        • Arkenaten says:

          Of course YOU never believed in these particular gods, as they were before your time and fell outside your culture. But a great many people did at some point in history.
          I used these examples to illustrate the point that is should be crucial to explore every religious claim to ensure we do not foist false doctrine onto ourselves and out children.

          The words in the bible attributed to the god Yahweh, are in the main fear inducing, vile and simple untruths.
          That they are written by men claiming revelation you simply hand wave away. And of course you have not the integrity to offer a single piece of evidence to back any claim you make.

          How dare you! I never once referred to Tricia as a diseased person, and you are a damned liar for saying so you pompous ignorant arse!

          (Oh the glories of documented comments: CS SEZ previously: You Wholeheartedly agree in what? That Tricia is correct when she expresses disdain for the notion that your friend, jz, and by association, you, state without reservation that believers ‘are diseased human beings who must be contained…………………?’ Shall I repeat this?

          Note doug, ‘AND BY ASSOCIATION, you………’ Sloppy reading leads to sloppy conclusions.)

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        • ColorStorm says:

          You have left enough footprints doug to not be upset when people challenge you for the ‘diseased believer stuff.’

          You have said far worse. Trish called your attention to it, as did I, yet you remained mute.

          One could infer, that your silence, while not naming her specifically, is still a nod of agreement with he who said it, SINCE, it was THE springboard from whence this post arose.

          Now then, perhaps you should here, and now, blast your friend who did make the statement, on behalf of MOST atheists. Here’s your chance to step up and apologize that some atheists are downright ignorant.

          Here is your chance to tell your friend to ‘shut up,’ and stop calling good people ‘diseased human beings who need contained.’

          Remember this is my site not yours, and you will not dictate the theme, which is clear.

          Wally, ib22, and trish were clearly among the number ‘who need contained,’ yet here you are, dancing around the obvious, and presenting a narrative about quasimodo, Sheesh.

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        • john zande says:

          I called you all diseased, and I stand by it. You are.

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        • ColorStorm says:

          Tkx john, and your friend doug sings your praise………….

          Then again, Paul was cited a madman, Peter and John unlearned and ignorant, and Christ was said to have a devil.

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  9. Arkenaten says:

    Sigh… how many times, Colorstorm?
    There are hundreds and thousands of gods. Yours is called Yahweh.
    We all know this and accept it unreservedly.
    Be content with this. But preferably don’t try to pass it on to children, that’s all.

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    • ColorStorm says:

      How many times do we need to tell you:

      In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth……..

      If you do not believe this, your conversation is ended, and you are a clown for proceeding to invest in that which you find amusing.

      Sorry you just cannot see, but God did say the light shineth in darkness…..then again, maybe you will see tomorrow….

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      • Arkenaten says:

        I do accept it, Colorstorm, truly I do, as do millions of others who claim their god was responsible.
        The difficulty arises when trying to distill the truth from all the claims and posturing?
        Now, I admire your unbridled passion, your zeal and your faith in your god, Yahweh, I really do.
        But what do we say to the Hindus for example?
        How must we tell them – millions of them in fact – they are flat out wrong, and they are all , each and every one going to hell for eternity?Especially when the believe exactly the same of you?( well, not Hell, of course, that is solely a Christian preserve)
        But if we could only solve this trifle I am almost sure we would surely resolve all the religious differences in the world. Don’t you think so?
        So tell me, how do we help the Hindus, for they are surely damned.

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        • ColorStorm says:

          What do WE say to the Hindus? The same freedom you enjoy to reject the true God, allows them the same right to pursue a Brahman cow. Free will is a great thing.

          To be clear, there is no god worthy of the title except for God. He is above all, and has zero competitors.

          Did I tell you about the god nikon……….

          And hell? A non issue here in this post.

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        • Arkenaten says:

          Yes, WE. As onc you dmonstrtae the veracity of your god, Yahweh, then I will be at the forefront of the evangelical drive to help you convert the Hindus.
          Have you no compassion in your soul?
          They, like you, have accepted the Creator god of their culture, foisted upon them generation after generation, indoctrinated into their children. How are they even supposed to understand that they have it all wrong and that they are doomed.
          Did Yahweh speak to them?
          NO!
          Therefore as an evangelicals it it is your duty, no, your life’s purpose to bring to Yahweh every lost sheep.

          Is there also a god Canon?

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        • ColorStorm says:

          Sighs.

          But I suppose there is that cult of the canon……..or is that Annie Lebowitz? Or Dianne Cannon?

          Truth be told, your interest in ‘converting’ anybody, is in direct proportion to how well you value………..’in the beginning God…………’

          That just about ends your interest.

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        • Arkenaten says:

          I think it is crucial to find out the truth don’t you?
          Thus, if it is Yahweh, as you claim, it is surely vital we bring the lost sheep into the fold.
          And how on earth are we to do that with other believers if you are not prepared to make the effort for me?

          Of the two I should be the easy one. At least you have a ‘captive’ audience.
          So why not try with me first, and use all the tools at your disposal rather than simply insult me and brush me off?

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        • Wally Fry says:

          Wow. Being counseled on my responsibility to evangelize by a Godless atheist.

          But unconfuse me…hear you say go evangelize, and all the rest of the time you scream at us to shut up?

          And Pat Sajak wants to know if you would like to buy a vowel.

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        • Arkenaten says:

          Well, in truth, the comment was actually addressed to Colorstorm, but no problem, I welcome your involvement as well. The more the merrier, yes?
          I am saying that, once we establish that Yahweh is the right god ( or one and only if you prefer) and once we have done this, then we can turn our attention to those who are worshiping the wrong god, yes?
          Hindus etc. And maybe we ought to begin with the Christians who are worshiping incorrectly.What do you think?

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        • ColorStorm says:

          ‘Once WE establish……………?’

          Uh, no, there will be no sleeping with the enemy 😉
          (to any who are running, this is borrowed from an American film)

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        • Wally Fry says:

          content of a comment or question. But, hey you weren’t talking to me soooooooooo..peace

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    • archaeopteryx1 says:

      But preferably don’t try to pass it on to children, that’s all.

      And for cryin’ out loud, CS – PLEASE don’t HAVE children, whatever you do –!!!

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  10. john zande says:

    Colourstorm, I just left a reply to wally. I would appreciate it if you freed it.

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    • ColorStorm says:

      Stop it jz, please.

      Maybe you can put in a good word for me with your friends **** and **** and ****and *** and **** and **** and *** and ***etc, who have decided that my innocuous comments are a threat to world peace and may be the harbinger of the rebuilding of the tower of Babel or the ascent of the antichrist………….and that they are much safer in the frozen tundra of banned ice. sheesh.

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      • john zande says:

        Priceless that you are whining about being censored. You, of all people, THE LORD OF CENSORSHIP!

        So, are you going to “free” my comment to you… Or are you happy being a hypocrite?

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        • ColorStorm says:

          Whining? Just the facts sir. Yet here you are! With the whole world to read your stuff, yet your friends have shipped me to the island of broken toys. You are too funny that you cannot see the hypocrisy.

          But let God be true, and every man a liar, to get back on track. How can you live with yourself telling children there is no God, and that the scriptures are full of lies? Telling them Abraham, Isaac and Jacob never lived? Citing Christ Himself as a liar?

          Oh how you must have never read ‘suffer the little children to come unto me…………..’ Dare you lie to the little ones whom the Lord so enjoys?

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  11. Gentlemen, you are up to 113 comments—with a few credited to us ladies, but the majority go to you fellows—-my goodness—and may I ask what has been resolved or revealed in all of this brouhaha?—Are you thinking that you can wear one another down? There is one thing I have observed that I find somewhat hopeful–that being Ark’s seemingly admitted admiration to your constant and steadfast faith CS—hope does spring eternal…
    God is greater than the minutia, we of humankind, seem to revel in—and might I perhaps be witnessing a bit of good camaraderie developing—
    …onward and upward gentlemen?
    to quote Stephen Curtis Chapman
    “Oh God, God is God and I am not
    I can only see a part
    Of the picture He’s painting
    God, God is God and I am man
    So, I’ll never understand it all
    For only God is God
    Only God is God”

    “Peace I leave with you; My peace I give to you; not as the world gives do I give to you. Do not let your heart be troubled, nor let it be fearful”
    John 14:27
    I echo that peace

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  12. ColorStorm says:

    Yes, would to God there was more from the ladies! 113? Ha, and that’s not counting the mind numbing ones that are much less relevant and even more absurd. Thank God for WP moderation tool.

    What is resolved? Nothing. Everything. Depends on the point of view, and as far as I recall, God’s word has never come up short in anything. While we may shrink back in eloquence, or lack in ‘proof,’ God’s word surely lacks nothing, and is always worthy of presentation.

    I do agree there are limits, both of patience and prudence in how far the rubber band may stretch, but there are those too on the sidelines, who are on the fence because of fear, but yet are moved to consider further the deep things of God. One can hope.

    But tk u jewels, you always bring a warm approach to the topics of the day, and are always welcome to shed your insights in the grace of Christ.

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    • ColorStorm says:

      No arch, you have it backwards. I was speaking of unbelievers, atheists, and decons who have expressed sincere trepidation about their lack of faith, who have observed the simple vileness by they who say the scriptures are full of darkness.

      Many an unbeliever has fled from the clutches of denial in the true God of heaven, and convos like this are quite helpful, you can be sure.

      And no, do not ask for names.

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      • archaeopteryx1 says:

        Then why don’t you allow all points of view to be presented, instead of hiding mine?

        Here’s your chance to show all of those ‘hiding in the shadows’ just how liberal you are

        (***********************link rejected by CS)

        And here is why per my crafted comment policy:

        —Say what you will, but please do not cry ‘free speech’ when your pics, vids, and links of insolence toward the name of Christ are trashed. In addition, assassination of the word of God will not get free PR at my expense. Profane and vain babblings? they will be shunned.—

        Note carefully: assassination of the word of God will NOT get free pr at my expense. There are plenty of sites that welcome the gutting of scripture. This is not one of them, and I make no apology. And by the way, if people really want to ‘see’ your link, they can always go to your friends house where you cut and paste what you send here, and where even your friends chastise you for your antics. 😉

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  13. KIA says:

    CS, you said.

    “as certain mouths ‘must be stopped,’”

    can you explain what this means to you? is it that you want disagreeing points of view or people who express them literally ‘stopped’ from communicating them? or is it just that they would stop themselves by the realization that you have the more valid and truthful claim?
    or if there is another meaning that you subscribe to this phrase please explain.
    -KIA

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    • ColorStorm says:

      Geez mike, the post is rather clear, but here’s an excerpt:

      How dare the self made elite dismiss good people so quickly and without regard. How dare the mentally challenged erase the life and times of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Mordecai, Ruth, Esther, Naomi, Boaz, Daniel, Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Timothy, Barnabas, Silas, Lydia, the Lord Christ Himself, and of course the one and only Saul/Paul the apostle, whose words and works not only stood against the onslaught of ‘new historians,’ wink wink, but whose credentials need no affirmation.

      These are good people. The civilized world knows the scriptural accounts are true.—

      (and ps, keep in mind, that the ‘believers being diseased and needing contained’ crap, was the propeller that drove this post. So yea, whose mouths need stopped. Now try not to run to your friends house with the latest gossip)

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      • KIA says:

        No sir. You said ‘mouths must be stopped’ not the same as what you are replying. So please explain why you mean by this and how you propose to stop their mouths.

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        • ColorStorm says:

          Mouths are ‘stopped’ by the truth of God. It’s rather simple, and you telling me what I mean by by own words is kinda………….silly.

          Maybe you haven’t read the antagonism which proves that mouths are stopped………….

          You make the mistake of inserting your interpretation, so like others who interpret scripture incorrectly, then blame God for ambiguity, when it is people who come up short.

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        • KIA says:

          So, mouths are stopped by truth? Is it that listeners stop their own mouths because they realize that what you claim is true? Is that what your explanation is?

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        • ColorStorm says:

          When a man faces a lion in the wilderness, you can be sure his mouth is stopped…………he has no case………he has no special pleading………..

          In the same manner, when you read of the genealogies of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, when you read of the letter of Paul to the Romans, or the gospel of Luke, or the book of Ruth, or ‘in the beginning God…………’you KNOW the accounts are true, you know you are staring down the lion…….it’s up to you whether your mouth is stopped with excuses.

          There are no defects in the book of truth, and btw, it is not MY truth, it is THE truth; just relaying the message that’s all.

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        • KIA says:

          i guess my followup question would be… what happens and what do you do when the mouths are not stopped?

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        • ColorStorm says:

          And I would quietly say that I am not responsible for the tongues of others, as I have enough trouble with my own 😉 all I can do is tell the truth, and leave the details to God.

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        • KIA says:

          so… when mouths are not stopped by the truth, you are saying that you don’t stop them yourself? or am i reading you wrongly?

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        • KIA says:

          “… needs ‘stopped.’ And it was.”

          so you DO stop them when the Truth doesn’t. i see. are you the Lion then or is the God of the bible who didn’t?

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        • ColorStorm says:

          It is of course the Lion of the tribe of
          Judah, He, Himself who by His presence alone, STOPS every mouth, after all, His name is called the Word of God.

          Truth has this effect on people, but there is this little issue of denial. You see, the fool ‘says in his heart……..there is no God.’

          It is a conversation with a man alone, he himself knows ‘there is One God.’

          Excuses abound, but yes, you know this too, even though you cry all day long for proof.

          But don’t forget the essence of this post regarding ‘diseased believers who need contained…………’ Whose mouths must be stopped……….

          Bye now.

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      • archaeopteryx1 says:

        And btw, the mere fact that Jerusalem is the epicenter of the earth is kind of a big deal

        Where in the world did you ever get a ridiculous idea like that? ‘…epicenter of the earth‘ – what nonsense!

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        • ColorStorm says:

          It IS the city of the great King. Nuff said.

          Oh Jerusalem, Jerusalem……… perhaps you never heard……

          Let God be true, and every man a liar.

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  14. ColorStorm says:

    Tkx for proving my point that there is hardly a need to discuss the ‘accuracy of the bible.’

    Two comments already by you, and you have failed to address the salient charge by your kin in THIS POST, that believers are ‘diseased and need contained.’

    And btw, scripture needs no defense.

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  15. KIA says:

    “Let God be true, and every man a liar.”

    would you be one of the “every man” also?

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    • ColorStorm says:

      Well let’s see, if I denied the Creator His creation, if I said Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob never lived, if I gave the glory of the moon and stars to an earthworm, then yes, I would be one of those liars.

      Now be sure to hurry over to your site and continue your hyena fest.

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  16. john zande says:

    Have you banned me, John?

    LOL! The Lord Censor!!

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    • ColorStorm says:

      Nope, haven’t banned anybody, just tired of your same old scratchy 45 reruns.

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      • ColorStorm says:

        My shielded mind that has no room for the Creator of the human brain?

        Please.

        My shielded mind that disavows the history of life as clearly demonstrated through nature, scripture, and the conscience?

        Please. I want to hear at least an attempt at an apology to three good people for your ‘diseased and needing containment’ embarrassing episode.

        If not, the leash became one of iron.

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        • ColorStorm says:

          Ah yes, the Brazilian zandevuhl shuffle. Always leary of people who talk with their feet.

          See ya jz.

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        • ColorStorm says:

          Still no apology eh to ‘the three?’ Mules aren’t quite as stubborn.

          I digress. Comment? You mean this one? Or the next one? Yeah, the second one here is a doozy, truly a threat to world peace……….no wonder your friends put their fingers in their ears and said ‘not this comment!’

          Discussion on Raw Story 243 comments

          Colorstorm 3 days ago
          Thank you very much for deleting every comment I made here. It appears the light of day is too much for the unbelieving and atheistic mind to endure, so tks again.
          It was like a clear trumpet now, wasn’t it.

          Colorstorm 4 days ago
          Removed
          Pardon me while I finish laughing. ‘MOST’ rabbis have ruled out 5 thousand years of earths verifiable recorded history because they cannot find Abraham’s pipe or the Zippo lighter of Moses? Please, and this coming from a writer who says apes taught humans how to tie their shoes……….

          The credibility of the so called rabbis is in direct proportion to how they view scripture. ‘We looked for evidence in the desert and found none………………’ Ah but rabbi, thou art looking for love in all the wrong places. 😉

          The scriptures of truth have been assailed by every young punk with a peashooter. Today, they have grown to older men with difficulty breathing, and still complaining. ‘Let God be true, and every man a liar………….’ so reads the good book, and oh by the way, so sez that great rabbi of old, Saul of Tarsus.

          And for context of the rabbis arrogance and petulance, do have a good read of the illustrious accounting found in Acts ch. 7, detailing WHY modern Jews find fault with the Exodus. Yeah, good luck in hoping the truth of scripture disappears; one may as well try to make the sun hotter with a match.

          No Moses? Hmm, you may want to visit that island called common sense.

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  17. ColorStorm says:

    Past experience is a good indicator of present results. You post here, and within minutes you drive a conversation toward the flood of Noah…………when I was simply pointing out to you that believing it ‘snowed’ a few millenia ago leaves no trail. Faith was the point, and hardly needs explained.

    I have seen your ‘thousand comment’ threads (exaggeration of course) which are like a mouse on a treadmill. Scripture is enough. All the assaults against it are as old as time.

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